When they embarked on Projects 2025, it was not just the policies, but it was this attempt to train people to fill these roles in government that are not visible.

So political appointments that are not Senate confirmed, that are not titles anyone knows of or names anyone knows of, but who can get into there and slowly work the regulatory machinery.

And that's in many departments. I think that's true also in HHS, where they need to get their people in, they need to get their people hired.

And then those folks will start moving on the slow moving stuff.

They have to get the power first.

They have to get the staffing.

Then comes policy later on.

Hello, and welcome.

Why is this happening with me, your host, Chris Hayes.

You know, something we've been doing on the television show I host, All In with Chris Hayes, 8 p.m. Tuesday, a Friday, MSNBC.

We've been doing this kind of recurring theme I've been thinking about called, like, who voted for this, where we take something that Doge has done, usually Doge, or not Doge, someone has done in the Trump administration, that just seems like the least popular thing a person could do.

Like, they canceled this huge women's health study that had been going on for 30 years.

It studied women's menopausal health.

They've been canceling, like, contracts for, like, veterans groups.

They canceled a program where the USDA, like, pays farmers to grow crops that they then give to food banks and schools.

There's all these things that are just kind of deep in the bowels of the administrative state that are just,

they're not cultural war stuff.

It's not like, it's not deportation.

It's not trans swimmers.

It's not tax cuts for the rich.

It's stuff that wasn't really the subject of the campaign.

Like it wasn't a thing people were like, I'm going to vote to really, really stick it to Alzheimer's research.

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