How Progressive Policies Destroyed U.S. Cities | Michael Shellenberger Interview

The Rubin Report

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🗓️ 17 October 2021

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Dave Rubin of The Rubin Report talks to journalist Michael Shellenberger about his new book “San Fransicko,” why he left the Democratic Party, the real reason that progressives defend petty theft, and why the Left has turned its back on Viktor Frankl. Michael talks about how the policies of liberal cities like San Francisco, Seattle, Philadelphia, Los Angeles, and Portland have actually made the problems they tried to fix much worse. The growth of homeless encampments, open air drug markets, and mental illness have all been worsened by the policies meant to address them. Michael also describes how policies like decriminalizing shoplifting simply incentivize misdemeanor theft. Finally, Michael discusses the dangers of embracing a victimhood mentality. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	I'm Dave Rubin and joining me today is the president of Environmental Progress and author
0:12.5	of the new book San Francisco, Why Progressives Ruined Cities.
0:18.0	Michael Schellenberger, welcome back to the Rubin Report.
0:20.8	Thanks for having me, Dave.
0:21.8	Good to see you again.
0:23.2	So last time that I saw you was about three years ago and I think it's fair to say we both
0:31.2	considered ourselves liberals or Democrats or something like that.
0:36.6	That's why I wanted to have you on because I thought, oh, here's someone sort of on my
0:41.0	team who's frustrated with some of the stuff that I'm frustrated with.
0:45.7	Flash forward three years.
0:48.4	Where are you at in your little political journey before we fully get into the book and
0:52.2	everything else?
0:54.3	As usual, still having trouble with labels.
0:56.7	I mean, I wrote an essay called Why I Am Not A Progressive.
1:01.2	So I'm definitely not a progressive.
1:03.1	I can't accept that label anymore.
1:04.8	I changed my party affiliation in April from Democrat to no party preference, which is
1:11.2	what we call independence in California.
1:14.9	I wrote, I have two books out that one last year when this year, Apocalypse Never in San
1:18.9	Francisco, where I wrote them in part because I just wanted to articulate what I believe
1:24.0	based on reading the evidence and what my views are because I think labels are so inadequate.
1:29.3	I think some people, some progressives will call me conservative or right wing lunatic,
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