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Yeah.

You see the president engaging Republican, putting them back on the hills, scoring political points, real time.

Social security, there was that battle to give in.

Yes, beautifully done.

Yeah.

That's the moment you go to the president and say, sir, you're not running in 24.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

If I'm the party chairman, that's, I pull, I go to the senior leadership and say, this was

wonderful.

But this, this, we know, we know the background here. We know the underlying

truths of, you know, getting up for one game, right? When you've got 24 more in front of you.

Right.

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