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Welcome to the back-to-back pod on the Athletic Podcast Network.

This is Nerders She Wrote with your host, Dave Dufour.

With Mo DeKeele and Seth Partnack.

Are you ready to be entertained?

Hello and welcome to a new episode of Nerdishy Wrote on the Back to Back

Podcast on the Athletic Podcast Network.

Coming up on today's show, we are going to talk about how guys slip through the cracks

in the scouting and drafting process and whether defense and effort are tied together.

I'm your host, Dave DeFour, joined as always by my man Mo DeKiel and my other man, Seth Part Now. You see how that's evolved over the course of the season, Seth? I like it. I still have you going second, though. I can't wait. Listen, that ain't. Number two in the power rank. He's not, he's not, he's not jumping me. But also, Seth, I just want to warn you that at some point, I can't wait for him to just not call you his friend again. Like, it's like something's going to happen. I'm looking forward to that. Well, we are going to be spending a lot of time together in Chicago, so you never know. And if he gets you sick, Seth, he might not be, you may not want to be friends with him.

Before we get started on the show, I want to take a second and, you know, send our condolences to Kevin O'Connor and his family, friend of the show,

a friend of mine, a friend of Seths, I believe, also a friend of Mo. Great guy,

great family, and he just lost his father. So we wanted to send our condolences out to the

O'Connor's and all of their friends. We're thinking about you, Kevin, and it'll get better.

Guys, so in and, uh, you know, it, it'll get better. Uh, guys.

So in our group chat, we were talking about Terrence Davis the other day because this guy's

having a ridiculous season and we have no idea how he went where he went.

Toronto has got a gift for finding these guys in the draft, in undrafted,

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