Hello.

I'm your host Jessica Renan.

I'm an author, creative consultant, and a horticultural therapy practitioner with my company,

Basker, where I help people in businesses use nature and gardening for mental and social well-being.

I am so excited about this episode.

I'm talking to Amelia Harubi.

She's a feminist writer, podcaster, producer. She is the founder of Softer Sounds

podcast studio and the host of the Off the Grid podcast, which is all about leaving social media.

She has a whole podcast about leaving social media, which is so cool. And she has a new book called

Your Attention is Sacred Except on Social Media.

I already said.

I love this episode.

We talk all about attention, algorithms, how it's not your fault if you have a hard time putting your phone down and the role that social media has played into that.

And, you know, this is a huge reason why I wanted to become a

horticultural therapist, not only to help people find ways to disconnect, but with that,

connect back to themselves and others. And I needed help with this too. So I'm helping others,

helping myself. It's truly rewiring your brain back

and putting your attention back into yourself and things that maybe you have a better return

on investment for you. I could talk about this all day. And we do. We talk about this for over an hour.

If this is something that you want to

explore, you can email me about ways we can work together. And that's at hellobaskergardins.com.

It'll be in the show notes too. I just really want to help people feel more connected to themselves

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