This is NPR's Life Kit, I'm Mary El Segara.

Often in our lives, we have these big dreams.

You know, we want to travel the world or own a home or have a baby.

But then money gets in the way.

Today on the show, we have a special episode from our friends at the Marketplace podcast.

This is uncomfortable.

It's a show about life and how money messes with it.

Hosted by my incredible former colleague, Rima Grace.

In the episode, Rima talks to a couple that desperately want a baby.

But don't agree on whether they have enough money.

It's a great story, and there are also some super helpful tips in there on how to have these conversations.

Here's the episode.

Carrie and Natalia Mansmith know they want to be moms.

They fantasize about baby clothes, cribs, tiny socks.

Sometimes they scroll through TikTok or Instagram and fawn over other people's babies.

Talking to them, it's almost like their future baby already exists.

Well, first of all, let's refer to him as Bryson.

This is Carrie.

He's had a name for a long time.

He's had a name since before we've gotten engaged, I believe.

And that's her wife and Natalia.

So Bryson, EJ Mansmith.

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