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Hey, welcome back to Gun Talk.

I tell you what, I am recording this a few days ago because we're actually broadcasting of course from the

gun rights policy conference in Phoenix but a few days ago I wanted to get a

little bit of gun stuff a little shoot-em-up stuff so I called my friend Ryan

Klecter and said hey look, look, let's talk about rifles.

Ryan, of course, is a veteran, Army sniper, and also a Second Amendment attorney,

which Ryan is a weird combination to me in some form or fashion.

It is a weird combination. There's only six of us Rangers in First Ranger Battalion and I think three of us

ended up being attorneys and we didn't plan this at all though

we just all of a sudden years later looked back and said what and the world made us want to go be attorneys

together. Well you know attorneys always know the best lawyer jokes anyway so there's got to be something about

snipers and attorneys in here somewhere I'm sure there is okay but you know that's

not to say you have abandoned shooting because you teach shooting you wrote you

write about shooting I'm actually

reading your introductory book to long-range shooting you do a lot of that you do you do competition

but also you're a hunter and I kind of want to talk to you about the real world concerns.

I'm working up some loads now for my 7.08.

I've been talking about that, posted a few pictures online.

And the comments I get are really interesting.

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