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Shana Game is a certified financial planner, a financial trauma specialist, and the author of the new book

Unraveling Your Relationship with Money, which blends memoir and research to help women

ditch shame, heal their money story, and rebuild their lives from the inside out.

Shauna is changing the way we talk about money, not in the Here's Your Budget, Good Luck,

kind of way, but in the here's your budget, good luck kind of way,

but in the who are you underneath your money story. Hi, Shana. Hi, I'm so glad to be here.

I'm so grateful that you're here and I'm just going to clue the listeners in. I had a migraine

last week. This has been one of those weeks and obviously my listeners know me pretty well. Astrologically, it was a wild week last week, and I was very impacted by that. What's your sign? Well, I'm a cancer son, Pisces Moon. Are you a cancer? Yes, I am. Oh, my gosh. And I'm a Pisces moon. Stop. Yes. Okay. Well, this just makes it all make so much more sense. At least I know you can understand me because those waves last week were wild. And then as I was getting ready for this morning's podcast, I was listening to some other stuff. It sounds like we're in for another ride this week. So November is off to a great start. But we are recording super early in the

morning. And my listeners also know I am never super aware or alert in the mornings. So

forewarning everyone, it is early and we'll see what happens. But I'm super excited to talk about

this with you. I love the way you reframe money.

Like just in general, and we'll want to talk about all the trauma that can be related to money

because I don't think a lot of people talk about that.

But when we start, I always like to give the listeners a little backstory on people.

And how did you get here in those kind of pieces to that story. So how did you get

to the place where you're writing books about helping people here that heal their trauma around money?

Of course, it's a crazy, you know, story as most of us have. But I grew up with a father who's

been in the financial industry his whole career. So I was already kind of

used to that language. But if you would have told me when I was like, you know, 10 that I would be

talking about money, creating content about money, I would have really laughed in your face.

I have always been a performer when I was in college. I started at the time it was the first

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