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Apple News In Conversation

How money affects your mental health

Apple News In Conversation

Apple News

News Commentary, News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 18 April 2024

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Guest-hosted by Julia Carpenter: Losing your job. Being evicted. Hearing your parents fight about money. These can all be forms of financial trauma. Megan McCoy, a marriage and family psychologist specializing in financial therapy, explains how these traumas can have a long-standing effect on your relationship with money and how to break the cycle.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is in conversation from Apple News. I'm Julia Carpenter filling in for

0:08.3

Shimita Basu. Today, the hidden costs of financial trauma, and ways to cope.

0:15.0

When Megan McCoy was in college, she was paying her way through school by working as a waitress.

0:28.2

One night, she made about $70 in tips, and on her bus ride home she lost it. That stunk, like it stunked to have to eat

0:36.2

ramen or whatever it is, but the amount of self-negative talk that I did

0:40.9

afterwards like how incompetent I am, how I always am messing up with money, how I can never keep a dollar in my pocket.

0:47.5

Those conversations became embedded in how I saw myself.

0:51.0

It took 15 years for Megan to recognize the huge effect of that small

0:55.7

mistake. Every time someone gave me fiscal cash, I blew it immediately. These

1:01.1

idea of having cash on my body scared me so much

1:04.2

that I would end up spending it or putting it somewhere stupid

1:07.1

and losing it.

1:07.8

And so my behaviors caused a ripple effect

1:11.0

that caused more negative behaviors, more times

1:13.6

as self-blame and self-destruction.

1:16.4

Megan eventually became a marriage and family therapist,

1:19.4

specializing in financial therapy.

1:22.0

She's also an assistant professor at Kansas State University.

1:26.0

Financial therapy brings together expertise in money and mental health.

1:30.1

It emerged after the 2008 financial crisis when millions of people lost jobs, homes, and significant amounts of wealth.

1:37.5

These are all things considered financial traumas, but smaller events, like watching our parents fight about money or losing

1:44.3

$70 like Megan did those can be financial traumas too. When we asked you

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