This is the 10% Happier Podcast. I'm Dan Harris.

Hey gang, today we're going to challenge the way you think about stress. That word, stress,

has negative connotations for pretty good reasons. Stress is often what kills us in the end.

It corrods the mind and the body. You want to avoid it as much as possible. Except there are certain kinds of stress that we actually need.

It's what my guest today calls good stress.

My guest's argument is that many aspects of modern life are making us sick,

our chronic need for comfort, our sedentary lifestyles, our constant feeding.

These things put us out of alignment with evolution. In other words, we live in a world with too much bad stress

and not enough good stress. So how can you change that? Today we're going to talk about a bunch of

practical strategies. My guest is Jeff Krasno, who's a longtime stalwart of the wellness world, who a few years

ago learned to his shock and dismay that he was actually quite unhealthy.

And that led him to do a deep dive not only into his lifestyle, but also into the science

of good stress.

So he's got a new book and it's called

Good Stress, the benefits of doing hard things. Aside from being an author, Jeff is also the

CEO of a company called Commune, which is a masterclass platform for well-being, and he's the host

of the Commune podcast. Just to say, we're now in the last week of our month-long series, which we call

Get Fit Sainly. As with every episode this month, this episode comes with a bespoke guided meditation

for my friend, the great Dharma teacher, Karalai. Today's meditation is all about how to make a radical

and counterintuitive move.

Instead of your habitual move of either being overwhelmed by stress or pretending it's not there,

can you actually let your stress in mindfully?

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