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The Brian Lehrer Show

How Mamdani's Mass Politics Defeated the Establishment

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

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4.71.4K Ratings

🗓️ 26 June 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Will Bredderman talks through the historical precedent for Zohran Mamdami's upset of Andrew Cuomo.

Transcript

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0:00.0

It's the Brian Laris show on WNYC. Good morning, everyone. First of all, it's another Supreme Court

0:16.1

Decision Day, and they released them just after 10 o'clock, and, you know, the term is about to end,

0:21.7

so we'll see if birthright citizenship or any of the other major rulings do come down today,

0:27.5

we have law professor Kay Shaw standing by for later in the program, so we'll see what emerges

0:33.0

there. But we'll start today with a New York City history lens on the nomination of Zoran

0:39.0

Mamdani for mayor.

0:41.0

Even if our 100 Years of a Hundred Thing series is ending, we hit number 99 yesterday, we'll

0:46.5

still be doing history on this show as it informs the president.

0:49.7

It's one of the things we do.

0:51.2

And journalist Will Brederman had a really interesting New York politics history

0:56.3

piece on Politico the other day. Ironically, it was titled, If Cuomo wins, it was all but inevitable.

1:03.0

Here's why. But actually, the New York story he tells in the article also applies to the nomination of

1:09.9

Mamdani. Here's a central reason why. A lot is being made

1:13.5

today of the increase in turnout inspired by Mamdani in this Democratic primary, but that so-called

1:20.5

impressive turnout is only about 30% of registered Democrats. So consider this from Will Breederman's article. It says the percentage of registered Democrats. So consider this from Will Breederman's article. It says the percentage

1:30.7

of registered voters in New York who cast ballots declined from 93% in 1953 to 57% in 1993 and to just 24% in 2013, quoting from the article.

1:51.1

And I looked it up, it was just 23% in the 2021 general election.

1:56.2

How did the city go from 90% turnout to barely 20% turnout? Let's discuss. Will Brederman, thanks for joining us,

2:05.2

and we'll put this in the context of the nomination of Mamdani. Welcome to WNYC. Thank you so much for

2:11.1

having me. I really appreciate being here to talk about this. You know, I guess I would say off

2:15.7

the bat is even if you were, we're going to

2:18.0

look like we're going to break a million votes in this election we've just had. But that'll

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