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How long does light last?

CrowdScience

BBC

Science, Technology

4.8985 Ratings

🗓️ 15 August 2025

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

When listener Rob from Devon, UK, heard of a newly detected planet light years away, he was struck by the sheer scale the light must travel to reach us here on Earth. It got him wondering: How long does light last? What’s the oldest light we’ve ever observed? And does light ever die?

To find out, presenter Anand Jagatia calls on some of the brightest minds in astronomy and physics.

Astronomer Matthew Middleton from the University of Southampton describes himself as “a kid in a sweet shop” when it comes to physics, and that enthusiasm comes in handy, because scientists still struggle to define exactly what light is. What we do know is that light comes in many forms, and choosing the right kind can peel back the cosmic curtain, revealing the universe’s deepest and darkest secrets. That knowledge will prove vital in Anand’s search for the oldest light ever observed.

At the European Southern Observatory in Chile, staff astronomer Pascale Hibon gives Anand a behind-the-scenes look at the Very Large Telescope, one of the most advanced optical instruments on Earth, perfectly placed under some of the clearest skies on the planet. Light from the objects Pascale studies has often travelled for billions of years, making her images snapshots of the distant past. In a sense, she’s pretty much a time traveller.

If light has crossed the vastness of the universe to reach us, it must be unimaginably ancient. But what will become of it in the far future? Could we trap it and preserve it forever?

“If we knew what light is, that might be an easier question to answer,” says Miles Padgett at the University of Glasgow, who has spent his career trying to pin it down. As Anand discovers, physics can be more philosophical than you might expect.

From redshifted galaxies at the edge of the observable universe to exotic materials that can slow light to walking pace, CrowdScience explores whether we can catch light, how it changes over time, and why truly understanding it remains one of physics’ most stubborn challenges.

Presenter: Anand Jagatia Producer: Harrison Lewis Editor: Ilan Goodman

(Image: An area of deep space with thousands of galaxies in various shapes and sizes on a black background. Most are circles or ovals, with a few spirals. More distant galaxies are smaller, down to being mere dots, while closer galaxies are larger and some appear to be glowing. Red and orange galaxies contain more dust or more stellar activity Credit:ESA/Webb, NASA & CSA, G. Östlin, P. G. Perez-Gonzalez, J. Melinder, the JADES Collaboration, M. Zamani (ESA/Webb))

Transcript

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0:00.0

My name is Pascal Ibon. I am an astronomer working with one of the biggest telescopes in the world.

0:17.0

Hello and welcome to Crowd Science from the BBC World Service,

0:21.4

the show that searches far and wide across the universe

0:24.5

for the answers to your science questions.

0:27.5

We are going to open soon.

0:30.4

This means 45 minutes before sunset.

0:33.9

It takes 30 to 45 minutes to open a telescope.

0:38.5

Let's go inside one and I will show you how we open.

0:44.8

I am at the Paranal Observatory in Chile, far out in the Atacama Desert, over 2,600

0:51.6

meters above sea level.

0:54.1

Here the sky is crystal clear.

0:56.0

I'm Anna Jagatia, and our show this week is all about the kind of work that Pascal does

1:02.0

at night in the middle of the desert in Chile.

1:05.0

It's one of the best places on Earth to carry out grand astronomy that does mean working throughout the night.

1:13.6

So I am now inside the telescope dome and you can see the primary mirror and on the top

1:23.6

there is the secondary mirror. The primary mirror is an 8-metre diameter and the secondary mirror is a 1 meter diameter.

1:33.3

To look closer at our own galaxy and the universe beyond it, I use the very large telescope, that's its official name.

1:42.3

From here, I can see some of the most distant objects in our universe.

1:51.9

It's this ancient, primordial light of the cosmos

1:55.6

which inspired one of our listeners to get in touch.

2:00.2

My name's Rob. I'm from North Devon in the UK. My question for crowd science is,

2:05.1

how long does light last? This is a cool question. What's the thinking behind it? Why have you been

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