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🗓️ 1 June 2024
⏱️ 87 minutes
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So much of what we hear about China and Russia today likens the relationship between these two autocracies and the West to a “rivalry” or a “great-power competition.” Some might consider it alarmist to say we are in the midst of a second Cold War, but that may be the only responsible way to describe today’s state of affairs.
What’s more, we have come a long way from Mao Zedong’s infamous observation that “political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.” Now we live in an age more aptly described by Vladimir Putin’s cryptic prophecy that “artificial intelligence is the future not only of Russia, but of all mankind, and whoever becomes the leader in this sphere will become ruler of the world.”
George S. Takach’s incisive and meticulously researched new volume, Cold War 2.0, is the book we need to thoroughly understand these frightening and perilous times. In the geopolitical sphere, there are no more pressing issues than the appalling mechanizations of a surveillance state in China, Russia’s brazen attempt to assert its autocratic model in Ukraine, and China’s increasingly likely plans to do the same in Taiwan.
But the key here, Takach argues, is that our new Cold War is not only ideological but technological: the side that prevails in Cold War 2.0 will be the one that bests the other in mastering the greatest innovations of our time. Artificial intelligence sits in our pockets every day—but what about AI that coordinates military operations and missile defense systems? Or the highly sophisticated semiconductor chips and quantum computers that power those missiles and a host of other weapons? And, where recently we have seen remarkable feats of bio-engineering to produce vaccines at record speed, shouldn’t we be concerned how catastrophic it would be if bio-engineering were co-opted for nefarious purposes?
Takach thoroughly examines how each of these innovations will shape the tension between democracy and autocracy, and how each will play a central role in this second Cold War. Finally, he crafts a precise blueprint for how Western democracies should handle these innovations to respond to the looming threat of autocracy—and ultimately prevail over it.
George S. Takach holds a bachelor’s degree in history, political economy, and philosophy from the University of Toronto; a graduate degree from the Norman Paterson School of International Affairs at Carleton University; and a law degree from the University of Toronto. For forty years, he practiced technology law at McCarthy Tétrault, Canada’s premier law firm. He has written three books on technology law/tech commercial subjects. Cold War 2.0: Artificial Intelligence in the New Battle between China, Russia, and America is his first book for a general audience.
Shermer and Takach discuss: Vladimir Putin: “artificial intelligence is the future not only of Russia, but of all mankind, and whoever becomes the leader in this sphere will become ruler of the world.” • what AI will be able to do in the coming decades • China’s surveillance state • Russia and Ukraine • Cold War 1.0: Autocracy, Democracy and Technology • Cold War 2.0: AI and Autocracy and Democracy • semiconductor chip supremacy • biotechnology • how China’s invasion of Taiwan is likely to unfold, and what the U.S. can do about it.
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0:31.6 | Hey, guess what? Our latest issue on AI is the subject of today's |
0:36.2 | podcast, which is, I'm gonna skip the usual introduction |
0:40.0 | and commercial for a skeptic society and go straight to my guest. George |
0:44.5 | Takash, who holds a bachelor's degree in history, political economy and |
0:49.0 | philosophy from the University of Toronto, a graduate degree from the Norman Patterson School of International |
0:55.3 | Affairs at Carleton University and a law degree from the University of Toronto. |
1:00.1 | For 40 years he practiced technology law at McCarthy Tetrro |
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1:05.8 | Canada's premier law firm yeah okay he has written three books on technology |
1:10.7 | and law and tech commercial subjects and his new book here it is |
1:14.4 | Cold War 2.0 artificial intelligence in the new battle for between China Russia and |
1:21.9 | America Cold War II. |
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1:26.1 | I'm guessing that's one of these, |
1:29.6 | well, let's say, Coast Guard type ships |
1:32.0 | that are actually big, more like destroyers that you |
1:34.7 | talked about in the book anyway before we get in all that George welcome the show |
1:37.8 | what's your story how'd you get in all this? Well Michael it's great to be on and just before I forget that is a ship entering |
1:47.4 | the Taiwan Strait now of course perhaps the most important and dangerous water, you know, right now in the world. |
1:58.3 | But in a nutshell, so I worked with technology companies for literally 40 years and in 2014 when Vladimir Putin, |
2:09.8 | you know, invaded Ukraine for the first time in annex Crimea, I was very disappointed at how |
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