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The News Agents

How lawyers ruined Britain

The News Agents

Global

Government, Daily News, News, Politics

4.15.4K Ratings

🗓️ 5 December 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

While China is an engineering state, tech analyst Dan Wang says the America and the West are "lawyerly societies", reflexively blocking everything - good and bad - and it's halting real progress.

Dan joins Lewis in the studio this Friday to discuss why Europe stopped building, how lawyers contribute to a slow in progress, and what all this means for wider geopolitivs and the rise of the far right.

The News Agents is brought to you by HSBC UK - https://www.hsbc.co.uk/

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0:00.0

The Newsagents podcast is brought to you by HSBC UK, opening up a world of opportunity.

0:09.8

This is a global player original podcast. What do you think's wrong with Britain? What do you think's wrong with the United States?

0:18.0

Now, I know your initial reaction is, how long have you got? But there is

0:21.3

something which is common, especially in the English-speaking world overall, actually. We take

0:27.8

so long to build anything. Look around you, and the chances are you will see in the lived

0:35.2

environment of wherever you live, of wherever you are right now,

0:38.9

more of the 19th century than the 21st. In the UK, we take an average of 12.5 years

0:46.7

to build any significant piece of infrastructure, with 10 years usually just in the planning

0:53.3

process. Think of it. Crossrail, 30 years

0:56.9

end to end. Hinkley Point Power Station, 17 years and counting. Don't even mention HS2. Housing hasn't

1:04.1

been built in enough volume for decades. Environmental impact assessments now run to 30,000 pages, taking seven years to write and approve.

1:14.6

We spent 100 million quid on a bat tunnel. None of this happened by accident. And what if that

1:23.0

lack of ability to build anything explains so much not just of our economic problems, but of our

1:29.3

political ones too. What if our society has become, in effect, government of the lawyers, by the

1:36.6

lawyers, for the lawyers? What if our problem is that we are now a loyally society rather than a building one, where legal means always determine

1:48.2

the ends, the legal tail wagging the economic and political dog. And what does it mean when our

1:54.9

principal economic competitor, China, is none of those things? That's the question, the dissent into the loyally

2:02.4

society that Dan Wong, an American academic, has posed in his extraordinary new book,

2:07.9

Breakneck, China's quest to engineer the future. It's receiving rave reviews as a new way

2:13.6

of understanding the malaise which has gripped the West. So we asked him into the newsagent studio to explain what we don't understand about what

2:22.3

is happening right now in China, why Europe threatens to turn into a mausoleum continent and

2:28.2

whether China and the US are destined for a titanic confrontation.

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