This is Recode Media with Peter Kafka.

That's me. I'm part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm here at Vox Media headquarters in New York City. By the time the episode comes out, Code Media will be over. Promoting Code Media for many weeks. Now it's done. So make sure to go to recode.net for all our coverage. There's videos, there's podcasts, write-ups to the interviews. It's an amazing event. I can tell you that now, even though I'm talking about it in the future.

We'll go read it.

I want to say thanks to everyone who came. Okay, that's the post-promotion of the event that happened. Here's the thing that's happening now. I'm talking to Lauren Duka, live in person. Hi. Hi, Lauren. How are you? I'm excellent. I'm delighted to meet you in person.

Same.

I've been reading about you for a year plus. Hey, that past 15 minutes before I got in here. How do people, no, no, no, no. A year ago, I was like, we got to get Lauren Duke on the podcast. And we missed our window. you are the person who rose to national consciousness for writing a single article for

Teen Vogue.com.

That's true.

Everyone knows the article, but just tell us what the headline of the article was.

Donald Trump is gasoline America.

It is a definition of a viral piece of content.

Oh, gosh.

You know, there's like numbers on it and I had

thought based on the numbers I'd been taught at half post that I had gone viral before. But my joke

about this is it's like an orgasm when you know you know. And this was very different. Just the,

it was like a tidal wave. I mean, the sheer magnitude of reactions. I still

kind of haven't gotten over it. It's still kind of going on. That's why we're here. That's why

we're talking about it. Then there was the Tucker Carlson incident. And then Tucker Carlson

kept a light alive for you for many months. Yeah, he's done follow-up pieces on. Yeah. My violent tweets, I'm the part of a violent left turn. So that is what I want to talk about. I want to talk about how you rocketed into public consciousness. A lot of people's lives have been changed by Donald Trump. A lot of people in the media business, it's been a good thing for them. It's obviously there's a whole threat to democracy and threat to the press.

For a lot of people in the press, though, their sort of career has been made by Donald Trump.

I think you are sort of maybe the best example of that.

Is that fair?

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