How Lack of Diversity and Inclusion in Science Hurts Us All

Clear+Vivid with Alan Alda

Bobi NYC

Comedy, Society & Culture, Science

4.7 • 3.8K Ratings

🗓️ 28 April 2020

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Unconscious bias is a widely used term and, too often, not well understood. It can be devastating for those it impacts. And coming to grips with unconscious bias in our own thinking can be unsettling. Like many others, Alan Alda found it hard to believe that the unconscious bias test he took accurately reflected his own thinking. So, to find out more, Alan sat down with Dr. Kuheli Dutt, who is meticulous in her research into the hidden biases we all have. Dr. Dutt is the Diversity Officer at the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory at Columbia University and has written about how these unconscious biases can distort judgments about who can be a scientist – to the detriment of science itself. Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/clearandvivid

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0:00.0	I'm Alan Alder and this is Clear In Vivid, conversations about connecting and communicating.
0:16.4	I think everyone who takes the test should feel good about themselves for the fact that
0:21.5	they had the courage to take the test.
0:24.2	I mean, we all like to believe that we are fair and objective and unbiased.
0:28.7	And so when a test reveals to us that we're not as unbiased as we like to believe, it
0:34.1	definitely comes as a surprise.
0:37.0	The test, who Haley Dutt is talking about, is one that reveals the biases we have that
0:42.3	are unconscious.
0:44.3	It can be unsettling to find out you have them.
0:47.5	And I can vouch for that because I took the test once myself and I found the results
0:51.8	hard to believe.
0:53.8	But unconscious bias seems to be a trait pretty much all of his hand.
0:58.2	Dr. Dutt is the diversity officer at the Lamont Dirty Earth Observatory at Columbia
1:03.0	University.
1:04.6	And she's written about the role these unconscious biases have in distorting judgments
1:09.2	about who can be a scientist.
1:12.0	And that's to the detriment of science itself.
1:16.3	This is so great that you could come into today because you work in such an important
1:20.9	area, especially in this time in our history.
1:25.6	It's an honor to be here.
1:26.6	Thank you so much for having me.
1:28.2	Well, it's an honor to have you.
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