How John Lewis Conceived Of Change

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Mike Pesca

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🗓️ 24 October 2024

⏱️ 46 minutes

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David Greenberg is out with the first biography of Congressman John Lewis, which offers an examination of the highly influential legislator's activism, congressional record, and how his theories of change themselves changed depending on the role he played. Plus, a recent This American Life episode about the Democrats' uncommitted delegates raised the stakes, but left out details. Also on the show, examining Kamala Harris' claims that under a second Trump administration, there will be no patriotic staffers to erect guardrails. CORRECTION: A previous version of The Spiel errantly mentioned that Michigan had the largest Palestinian population of any U.S. state. We corrected the mistake. Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at [email protected] To advertise on the show, visit: https://advertisecast.com/TheGist Subscribe to The Gist: https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/ Subscribe to The Gist Youtube Page: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4_bh0wHgk2YfpKf4rg40_g Follow Mikes Substack at: Pesca Profundities | Mike Pesca | Substack Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	It's Wednesday, October 23rd, 2024 from Peach Fish Productions.
0:07.0	It's the gist I'm Mike Pesca.
0:09.0	Today was reported that Donald Trump's former Chief of Staff, John Kelly, described the former president as meeting the definition of a fascist, and he also had to correct Trump on his impression that Hitler had loyal generals.
0:21.0	If that doesn't seem new, not just directionally, but in the specifics, you're right.
0:25.0	It was all reported before.
0:27.0	But now there is actual tape and more details of John Kelly saying Trump fits the definition of fascist.
0:34.0	Kamala Harris reacted.
0:35.3	Donald Trump is increasingly unhinged and unstable.
0:40.5	And in a second term, people like John Kelly would not be there to be the guardrails against
0:47.7	his propensities and his actions.
0:51.1	Those who once tried to stop him from pursuing his worst impulses would no longer be there and no longer be there to rein him in.
1:01.0	I don't know if it's increasingly I do know he's sufficiently
1:05.2	unhinged and unstable so as to be disqualified from holding the office again.
1:09.8	But I've been wondering about the idea that there are no guardrails.
1:14.0	Why? Why not? Why wouldn't there be?
1:16.0	When generals, Millie, Kelly, McMaster, worked for Trump, it wasn't because they liked the guys,
1:21.0	because they wanted to protect the country.
1:23.5	There are no such figures left.
1:25.1	There are no patriots left in the US Army or Marines.
1:29.0	The explanation citing Project 2025 is that Trump has developed his own idea of who should staff his agencies
1:35.2	and now they're all loyalists. But it doesn't mean he'll get them through. It doesn't mean
1:40.1	he won't be drawn as he's always been drawn to impressive military figures who will, I
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