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Welcome to Kindled Podcast.

I'm your host, Haley Williams, and this is the show where we talk about truth and grace boldly.

I'm so glad you're here.

Hey, guys, it's Haley, and this is episode 119 of Kindled.

Today I'm talking with Lori Wilbert about the topic of touch.

Whether it's fearful side hugs on one side or sexual abuse on the other,

both the culture and the church aren't doing very well with touch. Singles are staying single

longer, dating is wrought with angst over purity, and marriages struggle to not interpret all forms

of touch as sexual. Even the Bible seems to have endless rules about not touching things.

There is simply no place where touch doesn't seem threatened or threatening. But a curious

thing happens when Jesus comes into his ministry. He touches. Jesus touches the sick and the

outcast, the bleeding, and the unclean. That right there is the blurb for Laurie's book

Handle with Care. And we're getting into that topic a little bit today, as well as some of her own

story. Before we do, I want to give you a little bit of an update as far as what is happening

this summer with Kindled. I have decided, after much deliberation back and forth, to go ahead and

take a summer break from publishing new episodes. This is a super hard decision for me, just going to be

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