From WNYC Studios, it's Brian Lair, a daily politics podcast. It's Thursday, May 5th.

So where does the Supreme Court draft opinion reversing Roe v. Wade meet the January 6th insurrection. If President Biden

tells that story in this midterm election year, they connect like this. This mega crowd is really the

most extreme political organization that's existed in American history, in recent American history.

That's Biden from yesterday. If J.D. Vance,

the newly minted U.S. Senate candidate in Ohio, backed by Donald Trump, tells the story,

it's his tweet that calls the Supreme Court draft an amazing victory for the innocence we fight

for. Member Vance has previously criticized what he called the childless left.

Though maybe for politicians like Vance and House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy,

we should call them the rudderless right.

Vance's college roommate released what he says is a note from Vance in 2016,

worrying that Trump would be America's Hitler.

McCarthy, who hopes to be the next Speaker of the House, has spent almost every day since January 6th,

cozying up to Trump, has been in the news now because of the new book by New York Times reporters

Jonathan Martin and Alexander Burns for having told Liz Cheney on tape

that he planned to ask Trump to resign after January 6th. Now he's all, we love you, Donald.

We'll talk to Alexander Burns in just a minute. Here's that now infamous audio from the Times

and the book from Simon & Chuster.

The only discussion I would have with him is that I think this will pass, and it would be my recommendation we should be done.

I mean, that would be my take, but I don't think he would take it, but I don't know.

But I don't know. But I don't know.

My advice would be that he resigned.

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