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🗓️ 18 June 2025
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0:00.0 | For perspective on the current state of affairs, we turn now to Ernest Moniz. |
0:04.5 | He was Secretary of Energy during the Obama administration and a key negotiator and architect |
0:09.2 | of the Iran nuclear agreement that was signed in 2015. |
0:12.4 | President Trump pulled the U.S. out of that agreement in 2018, saying he could negotiate |
0:17.5 | a better one. |
0:18.7 | Mr. Secretary, thanks for being with us. |
0:20.1 | So Washington right now is |
0:21.3 | focused on whether the president should order a strike on Iran's fordo facility. This is that |
0:26.7 | heavily fortified facility and that it's buried deep inside a mountain. What's your view? Would you advise |
0:31.9 | military action or urge restraint? Well, I think it's a complex situation, although I will come to a conclusion. |
0:41.2 | First of all, I think the Israeli strike really has put the United States in a difficult |
0:46.8 | position in the sense that the United States has the only capacity to at least potentially |
0:53.5 | eliminate Fordoo the underground enrichment |
0:57.2 | site. And without doing that, frankly, the campaign to eliminate Iran's nuclear program even |
1:05.6 | temporarily, obviously, would not be at all complete. On the other hand, if the United States were to carry through |
1:13.6 | with that threat to bomb Fordo, A, we would be involved in the war quite clearly, and B, we cannot bomb the |
1:26.5 | program out of existence. |
1:28.3 | It will just revive in some period of time. |
1:32.3 | It might be years, but it would revive unless the political regime in Tehran were to totally change in a favorable direction. |
1:43.3 | That's a big gamble. In the end, weighing all of that, |
1:48.3 | I would argue against the United States bombing Fordo. So is Fordo really the linchpin of Iran's |
1:55.9 | nuclear program? Well, I wouldn't say it's the linchpin in the sense that if other facilities continue to operate, |
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