How ISIS Steals Western Ideas to Recruit in U.S.: Terrorism Expert Robert Pape

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🗓️ 15 January 2019

⏱️ 31 minutes

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In this episode of Intelligence Matters, host Michael Morell speaks with Chicago University professor and Director of the Chicago Project on Security and Terrorism Robert Pape, who explains how ISIS and other militant groups adopt Western narratives to effectively recruit in the United States. Pape reviews what inspires people about ISIS propaganda and how the group's recruits differ from those of Al Qaeda. He also tells Morell how he works with the FBI and U.S. prison system to better understand the psychologies of those who have become radicalized.

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0:28.4	This is the Intelligence Matters Podcast with former acting director of the CIA, Michael
0:33.4	Morel.
0:34.4	A couple years ago, we got a research project to figure out what inspires people about
0:41.4	ISIS propaganda in the United States.
0:43.8	Well, something jumped right out at us, Michael, that was just super crystal clear.
0:48.4	The core pool of who was attracted to ISIS today and other militant groups has changed fundamentally
0:55.4	since 9-11.
0:57.4	On 9-11, the 19 hijackers were all born overseas and radicalized overseas.
1:04.6	I think of them as immigrants.
1:06.5	ISIS is the opposite.
1:08.4	Over two-thirds of the ISIS recruits are born in the United States.
1:16.0	The second research thread is what you call the ISIS propaganda revolution.
1:21.2	So we have long known that ISIS has been using propaganda.
1:26.6	It's video, it's kind of modern, somehow it has music associated with it, and what they
1:31.7	did is they took a page right out of Hollywood, right out of our blockbuster superhero movies
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