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From KQED.

From KQED. From KQED Public Radio in San Francisco, this is Forum.

I'm April Dimboski.

For nearly two decades, Dr. Robert Pearl was CEO of the country's largest medical group,

in charge of 10,000 doctors.

He realized to improve care for patients, doctors need to re-evaluate the cultural norms they've been conditioned to accept. He says it's a culture defined by repression

and denial. In his new book, Uncaring, how the culture of medicine kills doctors and patients,

Pearl argues that to fix the American healthcare system, we need to fix

physician culture. We'll hear his critique of medical values and beliefs and how they can be changed.

That's next on Forum right after this news.

Welcome to Forum. I'm April Dimboski.

In various health surveys, Americans say they love their doctors, but they hate the health care system.

Insurance companies, hospital accountants, they're the villains, while doctors are the heroes. But what if doctors are part of the problem? My guest today, Dr. Robert Pearl, says physician culture is also to

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