Welcome back to the S. Pastor John podcast with a long time author and pastor John Piper.

Pastor John, here is, here's the next question on the docket.

Hello Pastor John, my name is Micah, and I was wondering about Romans 215 in Hebrews 10, 16.

Both speak about laws getting written on our hearts, the first speaks of a universal reality,

where so it seems, the second is a spirit brought supernatural reality of the new covenant.

So what are these two laws? Are they different? Are they the same?

Do they complement one another, and what do they result in? Help me, I'm confused.

One of the great things about this question is that it gives me an opportunity to with both of those

texts, Romans 2 and Hebrews 10, to say something amazing about the nature of mankind in general that

I think would be really helpful for us all to know. And and something wonderful about

redeemed mankind in particular. And both of those insights are, I think, tremendously important

for living in the world. So I'm glad I'm glad the question was asked. So first let me admit,

first of all, that there are scholars who understand the law written on the heart in Romans 215,

and the law written on the heart in these new covenant passages like Hebrews 1014,

as referring to the same experience of transformation by the Holy Spirit in the heart of the Christian,

that view is more common today. Very few took that view historically. It's not my view.

So let me let me read those texts and say what my view is and try to explain

what the implications are and hopefully be of some help to Micah. Let's start with Romans 214.

For when the Gentiles who do not have the law by nature and I emphasize that phrase because

it ties this passage in to Romans 1 where Paul was dealing with not with redeemed people

and what they do by virtue of the Holy Spirit in their heart, but but things that they do

by virtue of being created in a human nature or a male and female nature. So start over for when

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