All right, everybody, welcome back to another edition of the Untitled Jeff Gluck podcast.

I'm your host Jeff Gluck, and today it is a How I Got Here version of the podcast with Joey Meyer, who is the spotter for Brad Kozlowski and the pilot for Brad Kuzlowski.

Yes, he's got the dual pilot spotter thing going on, so he flies Brad to the race,

then spots for Brad at the race during the race weekend.

Then immediately after the race, he flies Brad home from the race.

So he's got some busy Sundays, and he's got a lot going on,

but he was nice enough to sit down and talk about his career and life story and crazy, interesting background that I really didn't know at all how he got to this point in his life.

But that's what the series is for learning about people like this. I've really enjoyed doing it this year.

So hopefully this is another one

that you enjoy. Let's take a listen to how Joey Meyer got to where he is today. All right,

everybody, I'm here with Joey Meyer, who is both the spotter for Brad Keselowski and the pilot for

Brad Kozlowski. I believe, are you maybe the only pilot spotter full-time guy in NASCAR history?

No, actually.

Oh.

No, no.

Actually, that's actually where a lot of pilots used to be.

What?

Really?

Yeah, Dail Earnhardt's pilot, Terry Labani's pilot, Harry Gant's pilot.

They all spotted back in the day when before a spotter was

required, the pilot was already at the racetrack.

And with the limited manpower and the availability of the pilots, one of the things

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