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Hey, welcome to how I built this resilience edition.

So twice a week, I've been sitting down for live video chats with different founders to find out how they're coping during the crisis.

And on Thursdays and Saturdays, we're posting excerpts from those conversations right here.

And today's episode is all about self-care, actually self-care above the neck.

We're going to hear from Andy Puddycomb and Rich Pearson, the co-founders of the meditation app Headspace.

But first, an excerpt from a conversation with Ali Webb, co-founder of Drybar.

And if you heard her episode on the podcast a few years back, you may remember how she launched a super successful chain of beauty salons that specialize in blowouts and hair products.

Earlier this year, Drybar was acquired for about $250 million, but Ali is still involved in the brand, and personally, she's trying to make the best of the shutdown.

I've been on this treadmill for the last 10 years and just running, running, running from place to place and traveling and a million things.

And it's been nice to slow down. I have to say I've enjoyed the slow down. I've enjoyed the like, you know, presentness that this has brought me.

Yeah, for sure. But before we kind of dive into some of the things you're doing, let's talk about Drybar.

I know the company was acquired in January. So can you just kind of describe what your role is with the company right now?

Yeah, well, you know, my role, my role has, you know, shifted throughout the years. And I'm still heavily involved in product.

And I still sign off on every product that goes out the door. And I'm very proud of that. They are my babies. So I feel very strongly about that.

It's really interesting. And I know you know, there's better than anybody is, you know, being a founder and you want a business to be a certain way to access to thrive and to access our way.

But you know, I'm not the best person for running and scaling a business. It's just not what I do best, which I think is also a super interesting perspective, right?

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