Hey, everybody. Maddie Sify here. Today we've got one for you that we first published

last year when shortwave was just two weeks old, barely lifting our little baby podcast

head up on our own for the first time. The episodes all about how artificial intelligence

works and how it can be hacked. Plus, disco music. We're back tomorrow with a new episode.

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Hey, everybody. Maddie Sify here again. This time with NPR Special Correspondent, Dina

Templarastin. Hey, Dina. Hey there. So you're here because you've been doing some really

cool reporting about artificial intelligence as part of your special series. I'll be

seeing you. Yeah, we did a story that it was explaining how AI works and how it's finding

its way into everything from refrigerators to insurance, even conservation. But you also

found out that for all of its potential, there are some real concerns about hacking into

AI. There's actually a whole field of study that is focused on this. It's called adversarial

or evil AI. Evil. And it's a big enough concern that DARPA, the military's research arm,

has created this whole program to study it. And it's called guaranteeing AI robustness

against deception. Or luckily it has a short name guard. The government is so good at naming

things, Dina. It is quite the name. So DARPA is really good at creating tongue twisters.

But basically what they're trying to do is imagine adversaries hacking into AI systems.

And as they see it affect everything from like public opinion to driverless cars. So it

has huge implications. Today on shortwave, adversarial AI, how does it work and how can we

stop it?

Okay, Dina, let's start with the basics. What makes AI so vulnerable to hacking?

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