We're dropping an episode of my friend Dave Dostano's podcast, How God Works, into our feed this week.

You may have heard Dave on my pod. He interviewed me and Jenny Wallace about making and mattering. And the episode Dave has

given us for our listeners is called The Flow of Craft. So you can imagine I was especially

interested to listen to this discussion about craft and spirituality. Enjoy.

I'll admit it.

I have no artistic skills.

I can't draw.

I can't paint.

I can't even build interesting things with blocks.

So for most of my life,

I've strenuously avoided anything that feels like being a maker.

But that doesn't mean I didn't envy it at times.

I know many people, at all skill levels, who love making things with their hands.

But it wasn't the beautiful things they make that piqued my interest, although they're certainly

wonderful.

It was the process itself.

It was how they'd get in the zone while working. They'd lose track of time and of their daily

worries. Sometimes it seemed they'd even lose themselves. All their attention was so focused on what

they were doing. And what seemed like the best part was that

when they were done for the day, they seemed renewed, not burned out. And to someone like me,

who works hard but doesn't usually feel joy from it, that struck a chord. It made me wonder,

what is it about craft that makes this possible?

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