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Sinica Podcast

How does investigative reporting happen in China? A conversation with Li Xin of Caixin

Sinica Podcast

Kaiser Kuo

Culture, China News, Hangzhou, Chinese, International Relations, Chongqing, Beijing, Sichuan, Currentaffairs, China, Politics, Chengdu, Shanghai, Guangzhou, China Economy, News, China Politics, Business, Film, Shenzhen

4.8676 Ratings

🗓️ 8 June 2017

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Li Xin 李昕 is the managing director of Caixin Global, the English-language arm of China’s most authoritative financial news source, Caixin. For over 10 years, she has worked closely with the editor-in-chief of Caixin, Hu Shuli 胡舒立, whose famously fearless pursuit of investigative reporting has shaped the business landscape and pushed the boundaries of business reporting in a country known for its tight control of media. Kaiser sat down with Xin on March 22, at the 2017 CoreNet Global Summit in Shanghai, and asked for her insights into how investigative reporting happens in China, what makes Caixin different from other publications, and how and why China-based media is different than foreign media. They also discussed what one might call the “new normal” of issues keeping China’s leaders up at night, including risk in the real estate market, corporate debt, environmental contamination, and, of course, Trump. Originally from the megacity of Chongqing, Xin graduated from the prestigious Tsinghua University in Beijing, and received a master’s degree in journalism from the University of Missouri. Outside of her work at Caixin, she is known for a recent stint as managing editor of the Wall Street Journal’s Chinese edition. Disclosure: SupChina partners with Caixin on the Caixin-Sinica Business Brief podcast. Recommendations: Xin: The work of Haizi 海子, a famous poet of the 1980s who tragically committed suicide at the age of 25. Kaiser: Murder in the Lucky Holiday Hotel, a brief series about the murder of Neil Heywood by the wife of jailed politician Bo Xilai, written by BBC reporter Carrie Gracie. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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0:00.0

Welcome to this special live edition of the Cynica podcast, a weekly discussion of current affairs in China, produced in partnership with SUPChina.

0:16.7

SubChina is the best way to stay on top of the most important news from China in just a few minutes a day through our free daily email newsletter, a handy smartphone app, and of course at the website subchina.com.

0:27.6

It's a feast of business, political, and cultural news about a nation that is reshaping the world.

0:33.3

I'm Kaiser Guo, and today we are at the 2017 Cornette APEC Global Summit, which is being held here

0:38.6

in the amazing city of Shanghai.

0:40.9

I am really delighted to be here and am most grateful to be invited.

0:44.8

Let's hear from you guys.

0:51.0

It is an absolutely fascinating time to be covering China.

0:56.4

Not only are we looking at a major party Congress that will be taking place in fall in Beijing,

1:02.6

but we're also looking at a global economic order that is in the midst of quite significant upheaval right now.

1:08.5

There are new populist nationalisms that are on the rise not only in the United States

1:13.2

and in the UK with Brexit and whatnot, but in many countries on the European continent as well,

1:19.0

there's been a turn against globalism coming from both the left and the right that has

1:25.0

manifested itself in a revolt against expertise against the dominance of a technocratic and cosmopolitan elite of which are all apart,

1:33.6

as well as the rising tide of trade protectionism that's come with it,

1:37.6

as the world's great trading nation, arguably the greatest beneficiary of this whole phenomenon of globalization.

1:45.0

Of course, China stands naturally to be deeply impacted by this.

1:50.0

But by no means is the U.S. retreat from globalism necessarily a bad thing for China.

1:55.0

In fact, the other day, Farid Zakaria of CNN went so far as to say that Donald Trump is the best thing that could have

2:01.8

happened for China and that under Trump, the U.S. is basically handing off the mantle of global

2:07.3

leadership to China in a very important speech delivered at the World Economic Forum's annual

2:12.7

meeting in Davos in Switzerland back in January. Chinese President Xi Jinping happily hoisted the banner of economic

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