Pushkin. This is talk easy. I'm Sam Forgoso. Welcome to the show. Hey yo, yo, Hey everyone. Thank you for joining us. I hope you're doing all right. Let's not even waste space today. Speaking of the man child in the White House, he has lost.

They will do a recount in certain states he will lose again. He will not admit defeat. We knew this already. We will remove him

ourselves if necessary. But until then, let's focus on a path forward and to do that we must continue to reckon with the

white supremacy that permeates every facet of our society. That's where Resma Manacum comes in. Resma is a

healer trauma specialist and New York Times best-selling author for his

latest book, My Grandmother's Hands.

The book explores white body supremacy in America from the perspective of trauma and

body center psychology. His focus, as I understand it, is to set a

course for healing historical and racialized trauma carried in the body and the soul. To deal with the

inherited trauma we hold within ourselves and that we inevitably pass down

through our physical bodies from one generation to the next.

Resma's work does not exist in opposition to diversity training or policy designed to

combat systemic racism.

But I think it's clear, given the state of this country,

that the training and policies are insufficient. They have not rectified the problems at hand.

As a body healer and licensed clinical social worker, Resma is focused on changing the conversation around race, using new science

about our bodies and nervous systems.

His goal is to make the invisible, visible. I think he does a fair bit of that in this

conversation. So here is Resma Manacum. Resma, thank you for being here. My pleasure, man. How are you feeling right now?

I am sleeping kind of weird, got some eggs and pains coming up, not sure what's going to happen next in terms of like the kind of national and

global sense there's a lot of constriction in terms of emotional stuff just

trying to express the stuff that I need to express, if

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