From KCRW, I'm Kim Masters, and this is the business.

He's like, you know what? The fear is good.

If you didn't have fear, then you'd have a problem.

The fear is going to guide you.

The fear is what every day tells you you need to keep pushing here.

So embrace that, which is kind of our, it's very Batman-y thing for him to say, actually.

Jordan Peel had success as an actor, writer, and sketch comedian, but he'd never directed a

movie before he made Get Out, and he admits he felt some crippling fear. So he asked Ben Affleck

for advice, and embracing the fear did him no harm. Peel's film has four Oscar

nominations, including Best Picture and Best Director.

Peel tells us about the years-long process that went into making a horror film about race

and about blowing up the notion that black films don't cross over.

But first on the news banter, as Frozen opens on Broadway, allegations of bad behavior at the top of Disney's theatrical division.

Stay tuned. It's the business from KCRW.

I am joined by my bandmate in banter, Matt Bellany, of the Hollywood reporter. Hello, Matt.

Hi.

So the Wall Street Journal has a story recently about Thomas Schumacher. He's a 30-year veteran at the company.

He was an animation producer and then became in charge of theatrical productions.

And, of course, huge, huge success with Lion King and going forward with other productions and reliably profitable part of Disney.

He has just had frozen open on Broadway.

But as that is happening, the Wall Street Journal tells us about a years-long pattern of alleged

inappropriate conduct.

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