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🗓️ 8 May 2025
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Eno, Trevor, and DVR discuss the Pirates' decision to fire manager Derek Shelton after a 12-26 start and wonder how making a change in that role will can make an impact. Plus, they dig into the slow start for Roki Sasaki and wonder if he can improve his fastball command and make a tweak to his pitch mix on the fly to get better results over the course of his rookie campaign, before drafting struggling starting pitchers and discussing a great piece about Mariners closer Andrés Muñoz from Alex Chamberlain of FanGraphs.
Rundown
1:10 The Pirates Fire Manager Derek Shelton
8:54 The Overall Struggles Under Bob Nutting's Ownership
15:44 Injury Follow-Ups: Hunter Greene, Dylan Cease, Corbin Burnes, Yordan Alvarez & William Contreras
18:30 Checking In on Roki Sasaki
24:24 Comps for Roki Sasaki's Fastball
32:49 What's the Role *If* the Dodgers' Rotation Gets Healthier?
36:40 A Four-Round Rebound Pitchers Draft
54:16 A Great Read About Andrés Muñoz'
Andrés Muñoz Is an Analytical Blind Spot' by Alex Chamberlain of FanGraphs: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/andres-munoz-is-an-analytical-blind-spot/
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0:00.0 | Welcome to Rates and barrels. It's Thursday, May 8th. Derek Ben Ryper, Enoceris, Trevor May here with you on this episode. We got some breaking news. The Pirates are making a change in the manager role. |
0:24.0 | We'll talk about the team's decision to dismiss Derek Shelton as we get into some baseball news here in just a few minutes. |
0:30.6 | We're going to check in on Roki Sasaki. Seven starts into his big league career. |
0:34.5 | It hasn't gone quite the way way some of the more optimistic folks out |
0:38.0 | there like me had hoped it would go so far we'll talk about what changes roki could make on |
0:42.7 | the fly and what we expect for the rest of the season we've cooked up a small draft on this |
0:48.0 | thursday looking at some starting pitchers who have struggled up to this point so we'll have |
0:52.7 | that later on in the show as well. |
0:54.7 | And we saw a great piece from Alex Chamberlain over at Fangraphs examining Andres Munoz |
0:59.0 | and the unique characteristics of Andres Munoz that make him so effective. |
1:03.8 | So we'll dig into that as well. |
1:06.7 | Gentlemen, let's start with the Pirates decision to fire Derek Shelton. |
1:11.4 | How on earth can you be a person with a brain in a decision-making capacity |
1:18.3 | thinking that firing your manager in this instance will actually change anything? |
1:23.2 | And this is not a specific critique of the Pirates' Front Office. |
1:26.4 | This is a critique of Bob Nutting and ownership and just taking people and just throwing |
1:32.1 | them out of a role, putting someone else in the role, and expecting everything to change |
1:35.2 | when you don't do enough to actually improve your organization, right? |
1:40.0 | Like, what is this going to accomplish? |
1:42.4 | Is this going to motivate the 2025 pirates? |
1:45.4 | Because by all accounts, Derek Shelton is a popular manager, well-liked guy around the game. |
1:52.4 | And this is not going to change the quality of the cast for whoever steps into this role to take over. |
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