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🗓️ 12 November 2025
⏱️ 27 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | This is The Guardian. |
| 0:06.9 | Today, how China is trying to silence UK academics. |
| 0:18.2 | We knew from the get-go that we were going to be monitored, that our work was going to be |
| 0:24.1 | heavily scrutinized, and that it would not please the Chinese government. |
| 0:29.1 | Laura Murphy is a professor of human rights and contemporary slavery at Sheffield-Hallam |
| 0:33.5 | University in the north of England. For 20 years, she's devoted her career to exposing forced |
| 0:39.1 | labour, any work or service that people are forced to do against their will, usually under |
| 0:44.5 | threat of punishment. So when she started investigating how the Chinese government was |
| 0:49.1 | exploiting the country's Uyghur community to mine rare minerals and to make consumer goods |
| 0:53.5 | for the West, she knew it would prove controversial. |
| 0:57.0 | Since 2016-17, the Chinese government had created a big system of internment camps, |
| 1:05.0 | where they started this system of state and post-force labor. |
| 1:08.0 | That means that anyone who has requested to work by a government official |
| 1:12.7 | or through a government program has no choice but to comply. |
| 1:17.7 | The Chinese government denies the allegations of forced labor and says their factories |
| 1:22.7 | designed to raise people out of poverty. But papers published by Laura and her colleagues told a different story, and their findings |
| 1:30.5 | went round the world. |
| 1:32.3 | They were cited by Western governments, as well as the United Nations, and helped to root out |
| 1:36.8 | goods made by forced labor from international supply chains. |
| 1:40.0 | We show supply chains. |
| 1:42.0 | We trace them all the way to the Western markets, and so we were naming big international companies as well. |
| 1:52.8 | Then last year, something strange started to happen. |
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