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I'm not a coffee drinker, as you all and I said let me get myself a cup of coffee

because it was a long day and then I was jittery as could be and of course coming along with those jitters were some real tech issues so

that's why we were a couple of minutes late.

Lorna Mackenzie says Ryan is back.

K Ryan. Ha ha, COE, woo-hoo, hi all.

So a couple of things.

We are obviously gonna continue.

We have Ryan back here because on the Charlie

Adelson jailhouse tapes that we're going to listen to momentarily, he's talking

about Ryan Fitzpatrick and other friends and former friends and Ryan Fitzpatrick's already shaking his head.

The top right corner you've got Dr. Jason Lipoff.

He is a periodontist or went to dental school. I don't know if you're a period.

You're a pediatric dentist.

Correct. That's an amazing talent to be a pediatric dentist because I would never

survive more than a day being I can barely be around my own children so the fact that you're around other children and their teeth not by the way

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