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🗓️ 16 February 2023
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Down in the Mississippi Delta, the Lester Family made a space for themselves and claimed their land–and they didn’t need “40 Acres and a mule” to do it.
In February 2023, Pearline Lester passed away peacefully. We’re revisiting this story about her family’s legacy in her honor. Her husband, Elbert Lester has lived his full life in Quitman County, Mississippi, on land their family owns. That’s exceptional for Black people in this area today, but at one time, Black farmers owned the majority of this land. What happened to change that? Host Kai Wright goes on a search for the truth. With help from historians John Willis and Eric Foner, he uncovers a story about an old and fundamental question in American politics – Who are the rightful owners of this country’s staggering wealth?
This episode was originally published as ‘40 Acres in Mississippi’ on January 30, 2020. Listen to more episodes here.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey gang, this is Kai. A few years ago, I reported a story in the Mississippi Delta about a black |
| 0:13.6 | family that had owned its land since reconstruction, which is a remarkable fact given how many black |
| 0:20.5 | families in that region had their land taken away during the Jim Crow era. I spent some |
| 0:26.1 | time in the Delta helping this family learn the history of their land. And in the process, I learned |
| 0:31.7 | a ton about the history of economic inequality in this country. Anyway, one of the people I met while |
| 0:38.2 | reporting the story has just died. Perlene Lester passed peacefully in her home about two weeks ago |
| 0:44.9 | at the age of 93. She made a profound impact on me and on many others in her long fruitful life. |
| 0:52.7 | So in her honor, I want to share again the story of her family and of their land. Take a listen. |
| 1:08.8 | Financial markets are divorced entirely from the main street reality that's going to hurt small |
| 1:13.7 | business mightily over the next many months. The wealth gap is where historic injustice breeds |
| 1:19.3 | present suffering. Our relationship to the concept of asset is ownership. We were |
| 1:24.2 | owned to make white people money. I worry that our desire to fix the past compromises our ability |
| 1:31.1 | to fix the present. Richard Douglas, he says, you cannot capital some without land. Because if you |
| 1:35.7 | don't have land, you actually don't have freedom. Whose property is the state protecting and whose |
| 1:40.8 | property is it not protected? So we're not talking about Jeff Bezos type of wealth. We're talking about |
| 1:46.2 | being able to not only get five, but save and determine your own future. |
| 1:57.4 | I met a new friend last fall. Hey, Verneeda. Hey, how are you? I'm woman named Verneeda Blocker. |
| 2:03.7 | And the thing about Verneeda is she grew up country. So I don't know if you've ever heard of this, |
| 2:09.6 | but you can make snow cranes, snow ice cream. And she told me all these rustic stories about |
| 2:15.2 | stuff she did as a kid in Mississippi. Now, how they did it? Don't ask me. I was a little girl |
| 2:20.3 | married. Remember it tasted good. You, you could not pay me to eat some ice cream made from snow |
| 2:26.6 | that fell from the sky. Anyplace I have ever lived. Kai, you would have eaten this snow ice cream. |
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