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Goldman Sachs Exchanges

How AI, tariffs, and the energy transition are reshaping infrastructure investing

Goldman Sachs Exchanges

Goldman Sachs

Business

4.41K Ratings

🗓️ 27 May 2025

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

AI, the energy transition, and geopolitical tensions are reshaping the global economy and markets — they are also transforming the landscape of infrastructure investing. Tavis Cannell, global head and co-CIO of infrastructure at Goldman Sachs Alternatives, looks at the megatrends driving opportunities and the outlook for the sector. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

AI, the energy transition, and geopolitical tensions are reshaping the global economy and markets.

0:06.5

They're also transforming the landscape of infrastructure investing.

0:10.3

I'm Alison Nathan, and this is Goldman Sachs Exchanges.

0:13.3

For today's episode, I'm joined by Tavis Canal, the global head of infrastructure within

0:17.3

Goldman Sachs alternatives, which is part of our asset and wealth management

0:20.8

business. We'll be exploring the mega trends driving opportunities and the outlook for the sector.

0:26.2

Tavis, welcome to exchanges. Thanks, Allison. Look forward to our discussion today. So Tavis, we're

0:31.6

obviously in a very volatile market environment and investors are starting to look closely at their asset allocations.

0:39.3

So let me start by asking you, what role can infrastructure play in portfolios?

0:45.8

Well, look, it's a great question. And, you know, in all of our client conversations today,

0:50.5

obviously, everyone's reading the newspaper and trying to digest some of the changes

0:54.5

that are happening.

0:55.7

I think what's interesting about infrastructure is that in particular, when you look at

0:59.1

institutional investors, they've really progressively increased their allocations to the asset

1:03.7

class over the last 10 plus years.

1:07.1

And so today, to give context, most large institutional investors have around 6, 7% of their total assets invested into infrastructure. And, you know, there's, they've done that for a couple of reasons. I think, you know, firstly, the asset class is really a diversifier. So the correlation has low correlation with, you know, public equities, with public fixed income, but also with other private asset classes.

1:31.0

I think secondly, you know, it's been very resilient in particular in periods of economic uncertainty, high inflation.

1:38.4

So, you know, one stat that we talk about with lots of our clients is you look market wide.

1:43.1

And since the beginning of 2022,

1:45.0

Infra has returned 9% compounded returns across the whole asset class.

1:50.0

And that compares with like buyout private equity at 5%, real estate at like minus 2.

1:56.0

So you know, you look across different asset classes in the period over the last three years

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