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Plain English with Derek Thompson

How Abundance Won in California

Plain English with Derek Thompson

The Ringer

News Commentary, News

4.81.8K Ratings

🗓️ 3 July 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

The California housing crisis is a disaster and an emergency. Housing construction per capita has steadily fallen in the last few decades, while home prices, rent, and homeless rates have all soared. By some estimates, the state is three million units short of housing demand—the equivalent of seven San Franciscos. One of the major barriers to building more housing has for decades been provisions in the California Environmental Quality Act. Signed by Gov. Ronald Reagan in the 1970s, the CEQA has been called "the law that ate California." It essentially allows anybody with a lawyer to stop any project they don’t like, for any reason. But this week, Gov. Gavin Newsom signed two bills to defang the CEQA. Housing reform advocates are calling it one of the most important legislative breakthroughs in modern state history. It could make it easier to build downtown housing and other urban development projects such as health clinics and childcare facilities. As Newsom wrote, “I just enacted the most game-changing housing reforms in recent California history. We're urgently embracing an abundance agenda by tearing down the barriers that have delayed new affordable housing and infrastructure for decades." Assemblywoman Buffy Wicks wrote the bill to encourage more high-density housing projects, while State Senator Scott Wiener wrote the bill to exempt several types of projects from environmental review. Wicks and Wiener are today’s guests. We talk about the long road to breakthrough, the art of political persuasion, and the future of abundance in California. If you have questions, observations, or ideas for future episodes, email us at [email protected]. Host: Derek Thompson Guests: Buffy Wicks and Scott Weiner Producer: Devon Baroldi Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

When you hear the word Seattle Supersonics, what comes to mind?

0:05.0

Maybe it's Sean Kemp, The Rain Man, or Gary Payton, the glove, or maybe an image of a tall and skinny 19-year-old rookie, Kevin Duran.

0:14.0

For fans in Seattle, it's something else. It's tragedy, it's theft, an iconic team with an incredible fan base that packed its bags

0:22.5

and shipped off for Oklahoma City.

0:24.9

From Spotify and the Ringer, I'm Jordan Ritter-Con, and in my podcast, Sonic Boom, I talk

0:30.3

to players, politicians, owners, and fans about how Seattle lost the Sonics.

0:36.4

You can listen to it on the Book of Basketball feed,

0:38.7

on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.

0:45.3

Last year, Amazon was the world's largest corporate fire

0:51.7

of renewable energy.

0:53.9

Feeling full and more of our energy comes from wind farms like this one.

1:00.0

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1:04.0

To learn more, visit about amazon.com.

1:10.0

U.K. forward slash sustainability.

1:17.1

Today, how abundance won in California.

1:21.7

There's a story we tell on the first chapter of abundance about housing.

1:25.5

In some ways, it's the entire story of the book in capsule form.

1:29.3

It's a tale of two cities.

1:31.3

The first city is Lakewood, California.

1:34.3

After World War II, millions of veterans returned from the European and Pacific theaters.

1:39.3

They started families.

1:41.3

Young parents, balancing babies in their arms needed places to live, and housing

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