in moving forward and really pushing this in a more global setting for as many people as possible,

there's this macro trend with what is going on with the American century and what is going on

with dollarization and how does the rest of the world fit into that and what the next steps are

that I think are the most compelling argument for how honestly Bitcoin can reach the millions of dollars

per Bitcoin value that some of its proponents think of.

Welcome back to The Breakdown with me, NLW.

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What's going on, guys? It is Saturday, November 7th, and usually on Saturday we do the weekly

recap. However, as I've mentioned a couple times, I'm actually traveling this

Saturday, so instead I'm doing this interview, and it's one I'm really excited about. Between 2004 and

2008, I lived on and off in Cairo, Egypt, about six or seven times. I thought I was going to spend

my life in the Middle East, and obviously things went very differently,

but it's still a place that I care about deeply and am fascinated by.

And so as part of this sort of global coverage, maybe shifting focus away from America

after such a long election season, I wanted to talk to someone who was in the Bitcoin and

crypto space, but who had roots in Egypt and who could maybe bring

together those threads. Enter Hany Rashwan. Hany is the CEO and founder of Amun and 21 shares.

He has founded numerous fintech companies before this, all at the ripe old age of 30,

and he's a super thoughtful smart guy, as you'll see from this conversation.

In it, we talk about how Hanny was both introduced to Bitcoin and where it really clicked in,

and you won't be surprised to find that it was at a moment of currency devaluation of the

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