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How a black activist managed to take over a neo-Nazi group

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The Washington Post

Daily News, Politics, News

4.45.1K Ratings

🗓️ 29 November 2019

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Katie Mettler unpacks the complicated life of black activist James Stern and how he came to take control of Jeff Schoep’s neo-Nazi National Socialist Movement.

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0:29.3

This is Post Reports. I'm Martine Powers.

0:34.7

It's Friday, November 29th.

0:40.2

Today, the complicated life of a black activist and how he came to take control of the neo-Nazi group.

0:51.9

What have you been investigating?

0:54.3

The strangest story I've ever worked on. It started out as this tale that came across my desk

1:00.2

back in March about this black activist from California. It seemed to have taken over a neo-Nazi

1:07.3

group in Michigan. Katie Metler is a general assignment reporter for the Post. And back in March,

1:13.7

she published her first story about this black activist, a guy named James Stern. Almost

1:18.8

immediately the story went viral.

1:21.2

New tonight, a black man is in charge of a black man now heading up a neo-Nazi party.

1:28.1

He got shout outs on cable television. Ava Duverne was tweeting about it. He got compared to

1:34.8

the real black clansman. Basically, I get a phone call from a man named Jeff Scoop.

1:40.2

He convinced Jeff Scoop, the longtime commander of the National Socialist Movement.

1:45.8

I have an idea. Give it to me. To sign over the organization. He says it's yours.

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