Hi, I'm Alan Olga and this is Clear In Vivid, conversations about connecting and communicating.

By 2024 the concept is we'll have our first woman and the next man stepping on the surface

of the moon in the South Pole and then over that decade we'll have quite a few additional

launches where we'll develop some infrastructure. Unlike the Apollo program for which we go

stay a day or so and then come home we want to be able to stay many days, many weeks and perhaps

several months. In the whole series of things that we're planning to do is what we will do on Mars.

That's how we as a species will survive. Jim Green likes to think big and is the

chief scientist at NASA. He's had plenty of opportunities not only on how we might colonize Mars

but also how we might turn the Sahara desert into a garden of Eden and he still has time to think

about the spark that created life on our planet and maybe throughout the galaxy. But what makes Jim

Green a great guest for Clear In Vivid is that he's so good at sharing these ideas with the rest of us.

This is so great that you can come join me today. I'm really happy because you're such an

extraordinary communicator and you do it consciously don't you? I do. I enjoy it and it didn't start

out that way it turns out. How did you start out? Well incomprehensible. I'm sure. I'm sure.

But as a NASA scientist my job was to do fundamental research. Take a look at spacecraft data

interpreted, find new things and that's a rush that you know I have had in my career a number

of aha moments where I'm sitting there looking at spacecraft data and I'm realizing that here's

a physical phenomena I have figured out and no one else on the earth knows about it yet.

That feeling is something I've heard from several scientists and it's an extraordinary feeling

it is. I would imagine it. I've never had that. Yeah it's a real rush because when I figure out

something that nobody else knows I look it up on Google and I find out a million people know it.

Well these are things you can't find on Google that's for sure. Yeah so tell me one of your aha

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