Five o'clock, good to have you with us.

It's been a heavy Red Wings Day. We opened the show with about an hour of Tiger Talk, and we can mix them in again in the 5 o'clock where it's early. There's 93% of the season left. But it's been a sloppy start. 4 and 7, a scuba loss last night. Strikeouts galore. Look, we could talk about it, but I'm nowhere near ready to even make a statement on

what this team is or is not. But I hear you, four and seven, and there's been some ugliness.

We'll get into that in a minute. The primary today has been the wings. Another gut-wrenching

loss last night, another one where they spit the bit

late losing a shootout dylan larkin hated the comments in the post game and the morning show did

a piece of the topic where it was like okay look something's got to change we've done a zillion

iserman shows i'm just convinced he'll never go anywhere he'll outlasts something's got to change. We've done a zillionizerman shows.

I'm just convinced he'll never go anywhere.

He'll outlast us all.

He'll be like Thanos living on his own planet,

barbecuing, and no one else will be around.

I came back to the wings.

What did it cost you?

The point is,

there needs to be a pivot this offseason.

Now, people like Costa, they won't even listen about trade and larkin.

They can't replace him.

He's our center.

We don't have a center in the pipeline.

Okay, fine.

The point I'm making is, if you stay the course, someone else would have to go.

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