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Evan & Tiki

Hour 4: Aaron Judge “Captain America” Debate, Nolan McLean WBC Hype & Knicks Drama

Evan & Tiki

Audacy

Sports

4.2988 Ratings

🗓️ 17 March 2026

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

In the final hour of Evan & Tiki, the guys get ready for the World Baseball Classic championship matchup between United States national baseball team and Venezuela national baseball team. Evan explains why he’s excited to watch Nolan McLean take the mound and debates whether this tournament really affects the long-term legacy of stars like Aaron Judge. The show also revisits the famous David Wright “Captain America” moment from past WBC tournaments and whether Judge deserves the nickname if Team USA wins.

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0:00.0

admit, when I was watching the baseball game last night, which I was in and out on between Venezuela and Italy, I was rooting for Venezuela because I wanted this matchup. I think this is a more appealing matchup. I think this is a sexy matchup. And so I guess it shows you the difference in my passion for Team USA winning versus the Mets. Like with the Mets, I'm always going to root for the lesser opponent. I don't care if it's appealing or not. But with this, with this World Baseball Classic, while I want my country to win, and I'm rooting for them, and I've got my scorebook already filled out and ready to go, I want to be entertained. And so I think Venezuela serves as a more appealing opponent tonight. The atmosphere will be electric. And I'm very excited to see Nolan McLean. And here's the way I would phrase it. First, let's put him in the window seat. And the window seat, of course, is brought to you by Window Room. I see up to 40% during the winter warm-up sale. I think with Aaron Judge, the Yankee fan and the non-Yanky fan has preconceived notions about him. He's clutch.

0:54.4

He's not clutch. They all want to fight over that. With Nolan McLean, we don't know yet. Like, he was great last year, but it was only eight starts. And some of those moments were certainly clutch, you know, shutting down the Philadelphia Phillies a few times. I would say it's clutch in the middle of August when the Mets are desperate for wins. but we don't know Nolan McLean's legacy yet.

1:12.8

It still needs to be written.

1:14.0

This is his rookie season coming up. So I kind of view the pressure stuff with Nolan McLean as more I'm interested. Like if he got bombed tonight, I know guys like Sean would be jerks about it. Yeah. But it wouldn't change my excitement of Nolan McLean. It wouldn't change what he can be because I think he's still so new. He's, he's fungible, if that's the right word. So I'm excited to watch him. And if he goes out and pitches five scoreless things, I'll be damn proud not only as an American, but as a Met fan. But I don't feel the pressure of, oh, my God, he got bom, he let the country down, and Sean's going to make fun

1:44.5

of me.

1:45.0

I just don't feel that.

1:45.9

Well, I mean, I hear what you're saying about Judge, because it seems like every big moment you look for Aaron, what does Aaron Judge do? And if he does something great, it's like, of course he's supposed to do that. He's great. and if he doesn't it's like

1:59.1

well he sucks because he's just non-clutch.

2:01.2

He's in a no-win situation.

2:02.8

Where is Nolan?

2:03.2

Big Mac has said that and sucks because he's just non-clutch.

2:01.2

He's in a no-win situation. Whereas Nolan has said that, and I think he's been spot on that Judge is unfortunately in a no-win situation or in this tournament. Right. I mean, he's, he's mighty Casey. So it's just like, it's one of those things. So it's just what it's, it's, it's, I feel like Aaron Judge is

2:16.5

I don't think it bothers him though

2:18.9

That's my point

2:19.5

I don't think he

2:20.7

I don't think it bothers him, though.

2:18.9

That's my point.

2:19.8

I don't think he is moved by what we think about him in big moments.

2:25.3

He's still going to try to be great in big moments.

2:27.8

And sometimes he'll come through.

2:29.1

Sometimes he won't because that's baseball, right?

2:32.1

Yes.

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