Hour 3 - Trump Derangement Syndrome
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
iHeartPodcasts
4.5 • 11.4K Ratings
🗓️ 1 December 2025
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Summary
The hour opens with post-Thanksgiving reflections as Clay and Buck share family stories and humor about holiday indulgence before turning to major headlines. They provide an update from White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt on the tragic shooting of two National Guard soldiers near the White House, emphasizing accountability and national security concerns. The hosts also discuss President Trump’s recent full-body MRI scan, which confirmed his strong health, and explore how advanced preventive medicine and AI-driven diagnostics are shaping the future of healthcare.
The conversation then shifts to lifestyle trends, including the rise of GLP-1 weight-loss drugs like Ozempic and Wegovy, which are transforming fitness, fashion, and even social behaviors. Clay and Buck note how these medications are influencing body image, travel habits, and birth rates, signaling a cultural shift away from “body positivity” toward health optimization. From there, they tackle a troubling education report from the Wall Street Journal, revealing that only 39% of freshmen at UC San Diego could perform a basic rounding task, a third-grade math skill. The hosts argue that eliminating standardized tests like the SAT has fueled grade inflation and eroded academic standards, leaving students unprepared for STEM careers and threatening America’s meritocracy. They call for reinstating objective metrics to ensure top schools admit the most qualified students, regardless of background.
A major highlight of Hour 3 is an in-depth interview with psychotherapist Jonathan Alpert, author of Therapy Nation, who discusses the phenomenon of Trump Derangement Syndrome. Alpert explains how extreme political fixation has fractured families, impaired mental health, and created an epidemic of irrational fear and anger. He shares real-world examples of patients losing sleep, fleeing the country, and obsessing over Trump to the point of dysfunction. The discussion explores how social media echo chambers amplify these issues, why the mental health profession resists addressing them, and whether this obsessive behavior will persist beyond Trump’s presidency. Alpert warns that many individuals constantly seek new causes—whether BLM, anti-Israel protests, or other movements—to fill emotional voids, likening these cycles to “group therapy sessions that amount to nothing.”
The hour closes with listener calls, including a retired chemistry professor and a parent highlighting the collapse of math education and its impact on engineering programs. Clay and Buck stress the importance of foundational skills and strategic career choices in an era where AI threatens soft-skill jobs. They wrap up by encouraging listeners to subscribe to the podcast and prepare for more analysis on education, culture, and politics in upcoming episodes.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.5 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:05.5 | Welcome back in. |
| 0:07.9 | We appreciate all of you. |
| 0:09.7 | Thank you for hanging out with us on the Monday edition, post- Thanksgiving edition, |
| 0:14.9 | of the Clay and Buck Show. |
| 0:16.1 | I think probably quite a few of you, along with your favorite host, have maybe indulged a bit over the course of the long weekend. |
| 0:25.5 | A decent amount of food consumed beverages consumed. |
| 0:31.3 | I know that was the case with me. |
| 0:32.8 | We had an awesome time. |
| 0:33.7 | We had, how big was your Thanksgiving dinner, Buck? |
| 0:35.6 | We had 13. |
| 0:37.6 | And I had all my nieces, my niece, my nephews, sister, brother-in-law, mom, dad, and my mother-in-law, along with my family. |
| 0:46.4 | It was awesome. So we had 13 for Thanksgiving dinner. Went well. I had a great time down in the |
| 0:52.1 | free state of Florida, still the free state of Florida. |
| 0:55.0 | I was laughing. |
| 0:56.6 | Also, still I agree about the member of the Gavin Newsom advisements on Thanksgiving where you were not allowed to, |
| 1:04.8 | I shared that five years ago now, but you and I will never forget what they put us through. |
| 1:10.1 | And I know many of you out there listening will never forget either. |
| 1:13.5 | But the five-year anniversary of Gavin Newsom telling you you had to eat outside |
| 1:18.5 | that you could not have very many people to your Thanksgiving dinner, |
| 1:22.1 | that you should not sing or chant. |
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