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Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now, and we have our friend Stephen Miller with us.

He is the founder of America First Legal, a former senior advisor in the Trump White House,

and a very astute and wise fellow.

Mr. Miller, good to have you back.

Thank you. Appreciate the introduction, good to have you back. Thank you.

Appreciate the introduction.

So we have some big stuff going on at the border or continuously happening at the border,

as in it's the most wide open that it has ever been, the most lawless.

It's a massive problem.

If you look at the polling for Biden, the Democrats, going

to 2024. And former President Trump has put out some pretty big ideas, and I know you've

been amplifying them for what he would do in his second term. Can you take us through some of

those? Because I'm seeing talk of widespread deportations, for example, a very serious escalation

in that. How would that work? Can we get it done? Yes, we can, and here's exactly how

it would work. So, the way that interior enforcement works right now, well, under Biden does not even happen

at all, but the way it works historically is you have targeted enforcement actions focusing

on specific high priority individuals.

So you work up specific packages against specific people and then you case them and you follow them around and you carry out the arrest.

You would need to, which would involve a massive increase in personnel involving the National Guard, involving DEA, ATF, FBI, state, local, and sheriffs as well, too.

You would need to switch to indiscriminate or large-scale enforcement activities involving basically going into any place where there's known congregations

of illegals and holding everybody on site, determining who's there illegally, and then taking

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