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thanks for listening to the herd podcast all right one of my favorite guys we don't get it much

the hall of pha paul pierce he's busy he's on speak after us 19 years in the NBA all right let's

i don't mean to create controversy but joe mazula and tatum and i the whole thing about a flagrant foul, give me a break. I don't know. But he fell on his wrist and he was in pain and Missoula called off the trainer. Yeah. What do you make of that? Man, let me tell you something about Joe. He's a no-nonsense type of coach. You know, like every time I go to Boston,

he's like, Paul, let's go, let's go do some MMA training. Like he likes to, he's a fighter.

Last year before the season, you know, he brought in a motivational speakers. You know,

maybe a former player, a coach or something like that. He brought, you know, he brought in a Navy

seal. He did. I was there. I was there and he was doing activities with the Navy player or coach or something like that. You know, he brought in, he brought in a Navy SEAL.

He did.

I was there. I was there and he was doing activities with the Navy SEAL. And they were just like, that's who Joe is. That's who Joe is. When I saw it, he was like, get up. Like, that's the type of mentality he's installed in this team. You got to play hurt in the playoffs. Let's go. you got to. Like, let's go. And then when I looked at it the fall wasn't that bad so i you know it wasn't it didn't look that bad when he fell it looked like a normal type of fall thank god it was only his wrist yeah and he'll be fine but i love joe i love the mentality he stalls in this ball club and you can just see it so like man you don't need to run over there for all of that that's how he his culture is toughness toughness because they got

enough guys that can shoot threes he wants to create toughness and his all time he don't go to the golf

course he goes in a may that's that's him so listen i i sometimes i wish uh westbrook could play could shift down something into a second or a third gear, but that's not how Russell Westbrook plays.

Did you ever play?

Because I thought Russell was so valuable to Denver.

He just gives him great energy, and he's a great rebounder for a size.

You ever play with a guy like that that kind of has one gear, but it's contagious the way he plays?

Well, yeah, Kevin Garnett.

Yeah, one gear.

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