All right. We've got a long line of people that want to talk. You know what we're talking about.

And we're not doing it the way the other shows did it because I don't think it's appropriate now with everything that took place for us to just move on and talk about, well, Kaelin DeBore, to hell with all that. Now it's more of who knew what and when. You're going to have lawsuits galore. Ward manual's got to go. and it's a question about where you're at with the program.

Because, you know,

Rik, lawsuits galore, Ward manual's got to go. And it's a question about where you're at with the

program. Because, you know, Rico, if you want, go ahead. This was your idea. And I actually,

I love it. The idea of, okay, well, now we're sitting here. The cheating, what it yielded,

the title, where you sit right now.

Was it worth it?

Go ahead, you tell us.

Yeah, I mean, Mike, because if you think about it, it did boil down to, you went all in

for a national championship and you did unscrupulous things, whether you was on the field

cheating, whether it was, you know,

making sure recruits didn't go visit Ohio.

You did whatever you could to get this title.

You've had multiple assistant coaches arrested.

And now you have the latest one.

And my question is now just, yeah, was this worth it?

Was this title worth everything that you wanted?

Because it cost you everything.

It cost you your reputation.

It cost you your integrity.

People don't respect the title.

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