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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Hour 2 - Sen. Rand Paul

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Society & Culture, Daily News, News, Politics, News Commentary

4.5 • 11.4K Ratings

🗓️ 14 April 2026

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Hour 2 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show is dominated by breaking developments in the stunning political implosion of former Congressman Eric Swalwell, alongside an extended, substantive interview with Senator Rand Paul on Iran, constitutional war powers, gun rights, voter ID, and taxation. Clay and Buck begin the hour by underscoring just how extraordinary Swalwell’s collapse has become: within days, he has gone from being the near‑certain Democratic nominee for governor of California to resigning both his gubernatorial bid and his congressional seat, now facing potentially career‑ending and life‑altering criminal exposure. The hosts play and analyze newly released audio from Lana Drews, a named accuser who alleges that Swalwell drugged and violently raped her in a West Hollywood hotel room, choking her into unconsciousness. Clay and Buck emphasize that this allegation represents a dramatically different and far more serious level of legal jeopardy than earlier reports, describing it as the type of accusation that—if substantiated—can lead to decades in prison.

Throughout Hour 2, the hosts carefully distinguish between presumption of innocence and the practical realities of criminal prosecution in California, noting the removal or extension of statutes of limitations for sexual assault in Democratic‑led states. Buck, drawing on his background, walks listeners through why such cases often become “he said, she said” battles years after the alleged incident, while Clay argues that the sheer accumulation and escalating seriousness of accusations changes the public‑credibility dynamic. They contrast the situation sharply with the Brett Kavanaugh confirmation fight, arguing that whereas Kavanaugh’s accusers became less credible over time, the accusations against Swalwell appear to be growing more detailed and severe. That concern deepens when Swalwell accusers’ attorney Lisa Bloom states publicly that three additional women have contacted her within just 24 hours, signaling that the scandal may be far from over.

The hour then shifts to a wide‑ranging interview with Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky, who offers a constitutional critique of the U.S. military action against Iran. Paul reiterates that while he opposes Iran obtaining nuclear weapons, he believes Congress must authorize war and questions claims of imminent threat. He discusses the risks of escalation in the Strait of Hormuz, the economic impact of rising energy prices, and the uncertainty of whether negotiations can truly resolve the conflict. Paul also weighs in on Kentucky politics, strongly endorsing Congressman Thomas Massie as a constitutional conservative, emphasizing fidelity to the Constitution over unquestioning loyalty to any single political figure.

The conversation broadens into Second Amendment rights, where Senator Paul argues for national constitutional carry, citing data showing lawful gun owners commit crimes at significantly lower rates than the general population. Drawing on his personal experience during the 2017 congressional baseball shooting, Paul criticizes gun‑free zones and inconsistent state laws that disarm law‑abiding citizens while leaving criminals unchecked. He also addresses the SAVE Act and voter ID, arguing that voter identification should be a basic requirement for elections and criticizing mass mail‑in voting systems that weaken confidence in electoral integrity.

The hour concludes with a spirited discussion of tax policy on the eve of Tax Day, where Paul highlights that the top 1% of earners pay roughly 40% of all federal income taxes and the top 10% pay more than 70%, countering Democratic claims that the wealthy are not paying their “fair share.” He argues that America’s problem is not insufficient taxation but uncontrolled government spending, calling for dramatic spending cuts rather than higher taxes.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.6

Guaranteed Human.

0:04.3

All right, welcome back into Clay Ann Buck's second hour.

0:06.9

Kicks off now.

0:07.8

Thank you for being here.

0:08.7

We started off talking about the latest with Iran, the state of Hormuz, Trump negotiations,

0:13.8

JD-Bant, all of that, but also the Swalwell political collapse and now possible

0:21.6

possible criminal charges on the horizon.

0:24.6

I think you'd have to say that is certainly something that could come down in the days ahead here.

0:31.6

A, in absolutely ignominious, I think that would be very well.

0:36.9

Yes.

0:37.4

Thank you. Ignominious collapse I think that would be the very well. Yes. Thank you.

0:38.1

Ignominious collapse really into the abyss for Eric Swalwell, who was thought to just be the likely, almost shoe-in Democrat nominee and therefore Democrat governor of California going forward, which is clearly a stepping

0:56.8

stone for a Democrat to be president because Gavin Newsom, we all know, is gearing up for that.

1:01.5

And that would make sense from the perspective of America.

1:05.7

He ran for president.

1:07.1

He was on the stage with Joe Biden and remember said that Biden was too old to be president back in the 2020 primaries.

1:14.7

I had forgotten that, honestly, until you reminded me of this that he had run for president.

1:19.9

And it also goes to show you, I think, Clay, he was so unsurious as a presidential contender that maybe you could say that was why more of us didn't

1:30.5

come out then. But he was being talked about as the next governor of California. And now there's

1:35.5

a lot of interesting theories out there about the timing of this, who pushed this. But this is a,

1:41.5

this is a public, or rather an annihilation of a politician's future that has occurred all at once here, very rapidly.

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