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Evan & Tiki

Hour 2: Dexter Lawrence Trade Fallout, Draft Drama & Mets Frustration

Evan & Tiki

Audacy

Sports

4.2988 Ratings

🗓️ 22 April 2026

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

A blockbuster trade shakes up the New York football landscape as the Giants move on from Dexter Lawrence, landing a top draft pick and igniting debate about culture, leadership, and timing. The conversation dives into whether cutting ties was the right move, what it signals about the team’s direction, and how new coaching philosophies shape roster decisions in critical moments. Beyond the trade, the discussion expands into draft strategy, comparing the Giants and Jets’ positions and exploring how flexibility versus desperation can define a franchise’s future. The show also shifts to baseball, where frustrations around the Mets, player mentality, and clubhouse dynamics take center stage, highlighted by a controversial on field moment and broader questions about competitiveness and leadership across New York sports.

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0:00.0

The New York Football Giants traded Dexter Lawrence to the Cincinnati Bengals for the 10th overall pick. And I said this to Sean, I take my L, my mini L. I didn't think they'd get a return like that. I give him a lot of credit. I give whoever we want to give credit to, Donna Ponte, John Harbaugh, Joe Shane, whoever. It doesn't matter. Sean Morash, Nikki Gist, whoever you want to give credit to, that's a good return. Definitely not. Nicky just.

0:24.5

We're not giving her. Shane, whoever. It doesn't matter. Sean Morash, Nikki Gist, whoever you want to give credit to, that's a good return.

0:23.3

Definitely not, Nikki Gist.

0:24.5

We're not giving her credit? No. The question is, what are you going to do with it? Right. But I ask you, Tiki Barber, because Dexter Lawrence was a damn good giant. He was. What do you think of the trade? So I thought that the Giants would be able to get something done.

0:38.5

And it sounds like listening to John Harbaugh, they truly tried. trade. So I thought that the Giants would be able to get something done.

0:38.5

And it sounds like listening to John Harbaugh, they truly tried.

0:41.8

It wasn't like they were just lip servicing him.

0:44.8

It was they wanted to convince him to be a giant.

0:48.2

But as soon as, and you started to recognize this about Thursday, maybe Wednesday of last week, that it just was not copacetic.

0:58.1

Like they were not talking the same language.

1:00.6

And it almost felt like Dex did not want anything to do with the New York Giants.

1:04.9

At which point, I don't know if I said this on air or if I said in one of the chats, good riddens.

1:12.0

Send them out of here.

1:13.1

Can't get them out of here quick enough.

1:15.3

Anytime a new coach takes over a team, I saw this only once in my professional career,

1:20.0

when Tom Calfin came and took over for Jim Fossel,

1:24.6

that coach needs to get his type of player into the clubhouse.

1:29.5

And I think sometimes when you don't do that immediately, or at least within the first

1:32.9

year or so, you end up having all of these weird connections and voices and direction

1:40.5

and you can't control it.

1:42.3

Things start to go off the real.

1:43.5

I think honestly, that's what happened with Dave's in his first couple of years. He needed to turn over the roster and he didn't. We can win with what we have because look, we got to the postseason. And ultimately, his type of guy never got into the building. Right. I think John Harbaugh making a very quick determination, this is with Joe Shane and Donald Ponte, obviously, that Dexter Lawrence did not want to be the Giants.

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