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🗓️ 12 March 2023
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Aarthi Ramamurthy and Sriram Krishnan are founders, angel investors, and product leaders who host the podcast Aarthi and Sriram’s Good Time Show. They have both held leadership roles at major technology companies including Meta, Twitter, Snap, Microsoft, and Netflix. In today’s episode, we dive into how and why to build your personal brand, how to deal with impostor syndrome, and stories from Aarthi’s time at Clubhouse and Sriram’s time working with Zuck. Aarthi and Sriram share their lessons from past failures, their experience building communities, and their techno-optimism, and Sriram offers his hot take on the Jobs to Be Done framework.
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Where to find Sriram Krishnan and Aarthi Ramamurthy:
• Aarthi’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/aarthir
• Sriram’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/sriramk
• Good Time Show Twitter: https://twitter.com/aarthisrirampod
• Good Time Show website: https://www.aarthiandsriram.com/
Where to find Lenny:
• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/lennysan
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/
Referenced:
• Naval Ravikant on Twitter: https://twitter.com/naval
• Marc Andreessen on Twitter: https://twitter.com/pmarca
• Clubhouse: https://www.clubhouse.com/
• Eugene Wei’s Status as a Service: https://www.eugenewei.com/blog/2019/2/19/status-as-a-service
• Kylie Jenner on Snapchat: https://www.snapchat.com/add/kyliejenner
• The Rock on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therock/
• Cristiano Ronaldo on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cristiano
• Charli D’Amelio on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@charlidamelio
• Addison Rae on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@addisonre
• The founder of TikTok’s speech: https://ludlow.notion.site/Alex-Zhu-TikTok-4631f80fdcc4423a845e145e807d8e2b
• Naval’s network tweet: https://twitter.com/naval/status/847134295600746496?lang=en
• Y Combinator: https://www.ycombinator.com/
• How Duolingo reignited user growth: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-duolingo-reignited-user-growth
• Hunter Walk on impostor syndrome: https://hunterwalk.com/2023/03/01/imposter-syndrome-is-definitely-misnamed-might-be-a-condition-of-privilege-has-a-fascinating-history/
• On Reviews: https://boz.com/articles/reviews
• Jobs to Be Done framework: https://jobs-to-be-done.com/jobs-to-be-done-a-framework-for-customer-needs-c883cbf61c90
• First-principles thinking: https://fs.blog/first-principles/
In this episode, we cover:
(00:00) Sriram and Aarthi’s backgrounds
(04:16) How Sriram and Aarthi got Elon Musk on their podcast
(08:47) Reflections on Clubhouse and other social networks
(14:14) Why Aarthi and Sriram are optimistic about tech
(25:53) Why you should put yourself out there and build your personal brand
(27:09) Why you should build a network with authentic relationships, and how to do it
(28:56) Sriram’s curated communities
(31:20) What you need to get right when starting a community
(38:35) Why everyone who wants to should create content
(44:22) Why you shouldn’t try to project expertise when you’re still learning
(47:54) Dealing with impostor syndrome, and why you should lean into your strengths
(54:01) Transitioning to a role of authority
(57:30) What Sriram learned about effective management from Mark Zuckerberg
(1:01:20) The biggest failure Aarthi had, and why you shouldn’t fall for fads
(1:02:08) Sriram’s lesson from building mobile
(1:09:21) Why Sriram hates the Jobs to Be Done framework
(1:18:06) Advice for immigrants
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0:00.0 | I hate jobs to be done. I think it's a terrible framework. I think no successful company has ever been built on top of J.D. |
0:07.3 | And if you pick J.D. You are probably doomed. I'll give an example. |
0:09.8 | When you sign up for Instagram right now, when you sign up for Facebook for many, many years, Facebook knew that it needed to get you |
0:15.2 | to 10 friends in 14 days. If you got your 10 friends in 14 days, you're probably going to use |
0:19.2 | Facebook. So it would be like, well, if you're going to throw every tool we have at our disposal, |
0:22.1 | get you to 10 friends in 14 days. So if you're going to throw every tool we have at our disposal, get you to 10 friends and 14 |
0:23.3 | this. So if you sign on Facebook for many many years, you get this little thing called people you may know and you |
0:28.3 | have this person who just sign up on Facebook. Why don't see this person? It's not because you need a friend, |
0:33.7 | because they need a friend. So what Facebook did was it made your experience |
0:37.6 | slightly worse to make that person's experience slightly better. This was |
0:41.9 | performing no job for you. It was trying to perform a job for them. |
0:48.8 | Welcome to Lenny's podcast where I interview world-class product leaders and growth experts to learn from their hard-won experiences building and growing today's most successful products. |
0:58.0 | Today, for the first time ever, I've got two guests, Arthy Ramamirti and Shri Ram Krishnan, both former product managers who |
1:05.6 | between them worked at basically every major tech company, including Netflix, Meta, |
1:10.0 | Snap, Twitter, Microsoft, even Clubhouse. |
1:13.0 | Shryram is now a partner at A16Z. |
1:16.0 | They're actually married and both individually amazing. |
1:19.6 | Together they host the Arthy and Shryram Goodtime show, which started on Clubhouse, it's now on |
1:24.7 | YouTube, and famously they at Elon Muskon back in the day which led to Clubhouse's crazy |
1:29.7 | rocket chip growth, which we definitely touch on. This episode is definitely the most fun |
1:34.4 | conversation I have had yet on this podcast. We cover all kinds of areas, including |
1:39.2 | this trend of techno-optimism, building your network, creating content online and how to go about doing that, |
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