When was the first time y'all met?

Who?

Did you, who knew who first?

Y'all knew each other?

I've known Bobby a pretty long time, back a long time ago when you started the Texas Cowboy

Hall of Fame back in Hicahoe.

And I think maybe, golly. It was probably's probably 97 yeah I'll met you when you were

cutting long time yeah probably in the 80s I was off at them big added money

bull riding's back then I didn't really have I wouldn't you know I didn't go to

many cutts when we we know each other 20, oh gosh. Oh, yeah. At least 25, I would say. Shit, yeah, well on that, I'd say, probably. How long have you been here? I've been, 21 years. 25 years. You've been in Bluffdale for 25 years? 25, yeah. Where were you before that, Giddings? Yeah. Well, my family's ranchman, but I lived in a couple different places, Colorado, California, and stuff like that. On the gambling boat? And on the gambling boat. You don't want to forget that. That's where all these blue chips, don't forget these blue chips.

What's your most interesting job outside of training horses?

I probably don't want to talk about.

That gambling boat's got to be up there.

I don't know, what they call Pig Pipeline?

That's a rough job.

You come on every day, black as night.

I've worked in a stockyards, slaughterhouse, I don't know, played in a rock and roll band. What? Really? Yeah, yeah. What'd you do? Oh, you weren't the singer were you? Yeah, sang. What? Yeah, a little bit of everything, so yeah. How long did it last? Was this on the riverboat? Yeah, you've been on the river boat, yeah. Riverboat gambler, yeah. Road bulls.

Right, you rode bulls and lived on different ranches and just a little bit of this and that.

What was the last year you rode bulls?

You know, believe it or not, I wrote a bull at one of the old-timer deals in the, I just wanted to cross that century mark.

So I rode a bull in the 2000 something actually.

No kidding.

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