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History of Philosophy Without Any Gaps

HoP 341 - True Romance - Theories of Love

History of Philosophy Without Any Gaps

Peter Adamson

Philosophy, Society & Culture, Society & Culture:philosophy

4.71.9K Ratings

🗓️ 26 January 2020

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

Ficino describes a “Platonic” love purified of sexuality, prompting a debate carried on by Pico della Mirandola, Pietro Bembo, and Tullia d’Aragona.

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0:00.0

And the Hi, I'm Peter Adamson, and you're listening to the History of Philosophy Podcast brought to you with the support of the philosophy department at Kings College

0:23.3

L.

0:25.1

L.m. in Munich, online at history of philosophy.net. Today's episode, True Romance, theories of love.

0:32.1

If love had a color, what color would it be? Green, obviously, as in Al Green, the singer

0:39.8

whose linky seductive and soulful tributes to this emotion include I'm still in love with you love and happiness and the imaginatively titled L-O-V-E love. I myself would love to know how many people alive today were conceived while Al Green's music was playing in the background.

0:56.4

Or am I making a basic mistake here?

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Confusing love with lust.

1:00.9

Marsilia Fichino would say so. If you asked Ficino what color love is, he would probably say white.

1:06.8

Referring not to Maurice White, whose band Earth Wind and Fire produced more than its share of slinky soul, but to these snowy white of purity and chastity.

1:15.8

Ficina would approve of our using the phrase platonic love for affection that does not involve sex.

1:21.8

Indeed, he can take a good deal of the credit for associating this idea with Plato.

1:26.0

He made a case that this author of several often rather sexually suggestive dialogues about the erotic life

1:32.0

was actually encouraging us to turn away from the body to abandon physical beauty for the sake of higher beauties and ultimately the beauty of God himself.

1:42.0

Like Cardinal Bissarian before him, Fichina was concerned to rebut charges brought by

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critics of Plato, including George of Trebizond. Drawing on scurrilous details from ancient biographies of Plato and the erotic dialogues themselves,

1:55.8

George condemned Plato as a depraved lover of boys.

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Ficino's case for the defense began with his translations of Plato, as when he rendered the Greek word

2:05.3

Piederastin, meaning to love boys with a less explicit Latin verb.

2:10.8

A bit of massaging in the process of translation could turn talk of erotic attraction into talk of fond friendship.

2:17.0

But the purification of Plato was carried out especially in Ficino's commentaries.

2:22.0

In his summary of the Republic, for example, was carried out especially in Fichino's commentaries.

2:23.2

In his summary of the Republic, for example, he dismisses as a harmless joke, the suggestion

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